A different view

[Epicurus]

Are there still men out there who (let’s leave LTRs and marriage and sex out of the equation right now) enjoy gaming women. Who enjoy the prowl, the setup. The initial conversations, the first dates. The jokes, the excitement of meeting someone new and possibly learning new things about another individual who has had an entirely different upbringing than yours. Who enjoys learning what makes them tick, how fast you could bed them. Or get them to a point where they’d want that.

 

[user43770]

I find it vapid and boring personally.

Yeah, most of the time it sucks, but occasionally you hit it off with a chick and it's a blast.

 

[TheGambino]

I find it boring too unless its a real dime who I can show off with.. Its becoming routine even the talk so id rather go straight to cexual talk..

 

[ubercat]

Unfortunately the very few woman who choose to be accomplished are normally the manish ones. And I don't regard accomplished as just having a career. I've been on Plenty of dates with pretty but boring high level corporate drone chicks.

This is one of the reasons I talk up the Asian chick so much. They respect learning and hard work.

My last Asian girlfriend learnt basic sports techniques while I was teaching her kid so that she could carry on his training on days when I wasn't around. She also became a licensed realtor in that time. Of course I helped but it was 80% her.

My current Asian girlfriend and I are learning French together and planning a trip to France next year. She did a postgraduate qualification with my help in Diabetes Education and is now studying a certificate in adult education. She's now alternating between working as a nurse and a nurse educator and is applying for diabetes educator jobs.

The point I'm making is one of the red pill principles is that woman don't care about the process they just want the profit, I.e. accomplishment up front. Of course I'm sure Asian girls would be very happy with that but they also to understand and support you through the process.

Like I always say they are 20% better and why wouldn't you go with what is better. I'm sure the same thing applies to Eastern European and Latina girls they are just a bit in short supply where I live.

 

[Glassguy]

I personally like the thrill of the chase, even though I don't chase. Make sense?

 

[guru1000]

I personally like the thrill of the chase, even though I don't chase. Make sense?

You like the thrill of getting the "chased" to chase you. Me too

 

[Glassguy]

You like the thrill of getting the "chased" to chase you. Me too

I like being the prey instead of the hunter on occasion. It's much easier

 

[exhausted]

I personally like the thrill of the chase, even though I don't chase. Make sense?

There is a thrill to having to hear a bunch of boring **** from a selfish entitled 9 times out of 10 waste of time and money woman while you have to keep up the charade of being interested in their unintersting chit?.

Exhausting

 

[Meektrop]

Lol I hardly ever initiate anymore, I just wait for a girl to come to me. It has worked way better than you would expect.

 

[Doctor Europeo]

Sometimes, every now and then, I enjoy the thrill of the chase. But most of the time I get rejected (either initially or later down the line), so I start to wonder what's the point or is it worth it?

 

[ubercat]

I think it's more time and overhead. As you get older you don't have the energy levels so you have to pick your shots. Career social circle and interests are probably more important than having a woman. Because if you have those things getting a woman is easy enough. I don't seem to have any problem finding girls who are worthy of an ltr. I.e. they are a solid 7 fit into my life easily, are willing to be led, have a personality, treat me well and create a minimum amount of drama. Because I understand woman and have average skills maintaining a relationship is easy enough. So it cuts out all the tedious overhead of approaching dating etc

Which ties into another approach of bedding them quickly. As that eliminates the time wasters. Basically after dozens of woman and hundreds of dates I can't be bothered dancing around so I structure things to minimize all that.

And also I guess as women get older they are less interested in slutting around and a bit more serious. Although the attention whoring never seems to stop.

 

[Meektrop]

I think it's more time and overhead. As you get older you don't have the energy levels so you have to pick your shots. Career social circle and interests are probably more important than having a woman. Because if you have those things getting a woman is easy enough. I don't seem to have any problem finding girls who are worthy of an ltr. I.e. they are a solid 7 fit into my life easily, are willing to be led, have a personality, treat me well and create a minimum amount of drama. Because I understand woman and have average skills maintaining a relationship is easy enough. So it cuts out all the tedious overhead of approaching dating etc

Which ties into another approach of bedding them quickly. As that eliminates the time wasters. Basically after dozens of woman and hundreds of dates I can't be bothered dancing around so I structure things to minimize all that.

And also I guess as women get older they are less interested in slutting around and a bit more serious. Although the attention whoring never seems to stop.

Rofl that damn attention whoring

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I think it's more time and overhead. As you get older you don't have the energy levels so you have to pick your shots. Career social circle and interests are probably more important than having a woman. Because if you have those things getting a woman is easy enough. I don't seem to have any problem finding girls who are worthy of an ltr. I.e. they are a solid 7 fit into my life easily, are willing to be led, have a personality, treat me well and create a minimum amount of drama. Because I understand woman and have average skills maintaining a relationship is easy enough. So it cuts out all the tedious overhead of approaching dating etc

Which ties into another approach of bedding them quickly. As that eliminates the time wasters. Basically after dozens of woman and hundreds of dates I can't be bothered dancing around so I structure things to minimize all that.

And also I guess as women get older they are less interested in slutting around and a bit more serious. Although the attention whoring never seems to stop.

It's not about energy. As we get older we don't like wasting time.

 

[Desdinova]

I enjoyed it when I was learning. I would go out, try new techniques, and see how they worked. I also tried doing different things with my personality to see what kind of response I would get. Pursuing women was fun and exciting back when I was in my 20s.

Now that I've been there and done it god knows how many times, I find it's on par with paying bills. It's a necessary step to get something out of it. My routines are usually the same because they work. My first dates are the same because they work. Occasionally I'll meet the girl in a different fashion which is a nice, refreshing change. But most of the time, it's just a boring, predicable routine. Things get more interesting after the first date. I still enjoy the first kiss and the first time she gets naked. That stuff never gets old, and it's what makes me decide to actually go through with the boring preliminaries.

 

[Macaframalama]

i enjoy the creative parts of game, being quick on your feet. saying funny/dumb shlt and seeing how much of it i can get away with, making people uncomfortable. its really all limited to your imagination.

some days i dont want to waste time and dont care about how i come off. i might do completely bold approaches and state my intentions loud and clear.

depends how im feeling i guess. i go through phases. same with women. some days im more attracted to the iskra lawrence types some days i wanna have fun with little slim asians. other days, as long as she passes the boner test, im good to go

but im on autopilot these days, im not really thinking to myself "she just rubbed her boobs against me, thats a really good sign!" or "she looks down and smiles every time i pass her"

its all second nature

This!

 

[exhausted]

I enjoyed it when I was learning. I would go out, try new techniques, and see how they worked. I also tried doing different things with my personality to see what kind of response I would get. Pursuing women was fun and exciting back when I was in my 20s.

Now that I've been there and done it god knows how many times, I find it's on par with paying bills. It's a necessary step to get something out of it. My routines are usually the same because they work. My first dates are the same because they work. Occasionally I'll meet the girl in a different fashion which is a nice, refreshing change. But most of the time, it's just a boring, predicable routine. Things get more interesting after the first date. I still enjoy the first kiss and the first time she gets naked. That stuff never gets old, and it's what makes me decide to actually go through with the boring preliminaries.

Well said.

What do you do for first dates?