"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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A Day Late and a Dollar Short

Destiny17

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So I'm a Nice Looking Guy-tan, muscular, 17.5 years old, with a nice car and a nice house and a nice personality and....

I met a girl online, went to her house on what was the 2nd date, I wrestled her, and then left her wanting more at the door when I left.

Came home after a call to check my myspace mail which read... "
so the pause at the door..just go for it..stop hesitating. just letting you know. :)" -HB

Fast forward a week later, sunday, the next date, from the very beginning I start sensing slight resistance, she does not want to make out with me all the sudden, though the back massages continue. Yeah I showed her a good time today, though as she was leaving about 5 hours later I asked her "Why all the sudden did you have a change of heart?" "Was it the chest hair?" I joked.

Her eyes moved as if to imagine this character she met JUST THE NIGHT BEFORE- and alledgedly hooked with or close to it. Basically, she has a boyfriend, and sort of hinted to it slightly on several occasions, as if with some forced restraint on her part.

What do I do guys? Do I lay low, bomb other hoes, and then wait for her to call me back in a week when she breaks up with this guy?

--or do I take a more active approach and test the glue in their relationship?

The Lesson I Learned here is "If they want it, do not deny them it, for there's no telling what tomorrow may bring." All it took was 2 days and she did a complete 180 on me. Any insight as to which route I should take would be appreciated. I'm thinking I don't call her, don't answer her calls/mail if she offers it in the meantime and let her one night fling fizzle...has this ever happened to anyone? :moon:
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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WhiteSoledShoes

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It was a ****-test and maybe LMR. I'm thinking she either

Got scared because they comment made her think you thought she was easy. So she had to put you in your place and back away.

OR

Was push-pulling, and trying to establish her control over you. Which you didn't do too swell on her test btw...by making the "Change of heart" comment, you were directly addressing it and showing insecurity.

Are you positive she really has a boyfriend? It might even be a safety net for her that she was setting up to fall back on when she needed to.
 

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Pretty much the same thing happened back to me in college.

What happened is that she wanted some d!ck from you and you didn't provide. She wanted to cheat on her boyfriend with you for whatever reason (try something new, get revenge on her bf, whatever), but you didn't lay her. It doesn't sound like you'll get another chance to get with her since she's pulling away from you, but who knows? If you come back at her while channeling all your sexuality you could probably get another chance. Just grab her and kiss her hard and keep escalating. You don't have anything to lose, just treat her like the hor she is.
 

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Well, I was not trying to show insecurity. I was just very weirded out, because when I tried to makeout with her in the gym about 3 hours earlier, she said no thanks, LETS JUST BE FRIENDS....have fun like kids...that stuff.

So then I'm like...that's fine...smile, keep having fun all day. And I think I offerred up some other fun.

She told me she smoked pot and snorted adderol with these record label people and went on about this guy who owned his own apartment before hand...

I'm almost positive she got intimate with this guy at his house last night, that was that, and I totally was honest when I said goodbye.

All I said was, "Did I wait too late?", "What changed your mind?"
I was not trying to show insecurity, just wondered WHAT THE **** HAPPENED IN THE PAST 3 days that would make her from the beginning come over HIGH to my house. I did give her a second hug. And I had been feeding her information all along saying I had danced with lots of girls and whatnot...though she knows I am a virgin. Was this a bad move?

I KNOW FOR A FACT I WOULD HAVE HAD HER IF I WENT IN FOR THE KILL THE FIRST TIME I WRESTLED HER. I KNOW THAT...WHY NOW IS IT SO HARD IF THIS BOYFRIEND IS REALLY MADE UP AND HER STORY HAS NO MERIT?

She's like an HB 7, does drugs, and may have an STD, but she's really funny and one of the guys and really smart and bipolar.

Where do I go from here? Do I follow the test and not contact her for a month??? Last time i get LMR I ignored them and they came back.
IDK how long her boyfriend will last, but other than buying a lamborghini, starting businesses, I don't see what would turn her away from this man, who appearred in the picture the last 3 days.
 

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HAAAAAAAAA.....yea just treat her like the hor she really is. I love that quote

Girls just want to be treated like hors they really are. Unless you find one thats not horish. then you can date them
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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If I were you. Forget she even exists unless she throws the pu$$ at you. STDs scare the crap outta me. I dont want any but im afraid to get tested too. Dont be a fool, wrap ya tool.
 
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