"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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A Date Without IL?

TekPh0bia

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Quick question: Is it unreasonable for a girl to agree to a lunch "date" without some interest?

I managed to score this girl's phone#, and after some chatting, she said she's not ready for dating again and shouldn't have given me her number. I let that go for about a week and stopped into her deli for some coffee. She was her normal, cheery, (sexy), self. She tore a sandwich order while I was standing there and some other woman was ordering a sandwich. I chalked it up to nervousness...

Anyways, I started talkin to her again (SMS) and after a bit of con-artistry on my part ("...you burnt my coffee, you owe me"), she agreed to lunch tomorrow. I told her that it's a "non-date date" and she said, "Yes it is."

I figure I could try and capitalize tomorrow and maybe score an actual date...but I'm not sure if she's doing it out of pity, or she's interested.

I'll post the results tomorrow; 5PM PDT :cool:
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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lookin forward to it ;)
 

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She'll decide what kind of date it is based on what you make it. If you hang back and just chit-chat, you might as well be another one of her girlfriends. Make sure you get some kind of flirting in there. Kino is always good. Try to twist the topic into something interesting, like what turns her on. You have fresh clay here man! Mould it into the shape you want.
 

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Hey guys...

I was going to go into the date with a "I don't care what happens" attitude. I'd definitely amp up the kino, tease her.

Yes, I said "was."

About 15 minutes before the "date" she msg'd me and said, "I feel like crap and I'm going home. Then I'm going to bed. I'm sorry." (This was 15 minutes after she gets off work..bout an hour and half before she goes to next job.)

I thought this was a normal copout, but apparently my co-workers who go to the deli said she wasn't her normal self. So, perhaps it's legit.

I simply responded with, "It's ok. I'm sorry to hear you're not feeling well. We can do it another time." It would seem the ball is in her court to re-schedule, but I'm doubting she'll do it. Hell, she's barely 19.

Anyways, I'm gonna call her Sunday and see how she's doing. However, I WON'T mention re-scheduling dinner or anything. I'm only going to find out how she feels, hope she feels better and end it.

It's SO hard to not take this sh!t personal. But hey, it's her loss...
 

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TekPh0bia'

Ive had girls bail with the sick excuse to. I then move onto the next one immediately that evening. Especially if they do it via text message, the most informal crap lol.

Ignore her for a week, dont msg or call her or ask her if shes feeling better. Let her contact you and IN THE MEANTIME FOCUS ON GETTING MORE DIGITS from the other 4 billion women out there. Good luck
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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