"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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A Date in 3 hours need some advice.

nmartinez12443

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I was approach by a girl and she gave me her number. She is cute and our first date was having a drink at a bar (she drank nothing). The second time we hung out we met at a bar for like an hour. Personally I am getting bad vibes, but she always texts always wants to hang out. Anyways tonight at 8:15 we are going frisbee golfing, that will go till about 9. Any ideas of what to do after, to isolate her. Or should I wait until the 4th time we hang out to make a hard move?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Pimp-sicle

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This isn't a pre-planned event bro!

Your primary goal should be to go have fun and display traits that make her attracted to you. From there, its like taking candy from a baby, she'll want to kiss you, she'll make it easy to do so.

The fact that you have already gone out a few times and have not capitalized is a bad sign for you, but completely in your control to change.

C'mon man, she approached YOU! She is already telling she's interested, just don't do or say anything stupid and your in.




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You blew it with this girl by having "dates" where there is no physical action in the first place. You are too nice and too by the book, like a typical normal nice guy.

Next time, your "date" should consist of you inviting the girl over to your place (or going to her place), with her favorite kind of wine, a DVD of a comedy movie that you like and can make witty remarks about, and condoms.

Make sure the invitation for the date sounds as laid back and casual as possible, something along the lines of "hey you wanna hang out at your/my place have some drinks and watch a movie?" - if she says NO, then you already know that her intentions are to get some free drinks/dinner/bowling/pool out of you, and that she will be dancing around the issue of hooking up for longer than YOU would like. A cool girl who just wants to get to know you, and hook up if she likes what she sees, will 100% agree to that "date" suggestion.

This isn't some theory either - this is EXACTLY how I have been able to have sex with dozens and dozens of women over the past few years.
 
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