"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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A convo with this girl got me thinking (not an AIM convo)

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I went out to eat with this girl I'm interested in two days ago. We're "friends" but not friend zone friends since I've never listened to her problems, wasn't a shoulder to cry on, etc.

so basically we're tlaking then we go to a park to sit down for a while. I sstart asking her what she wants to do and stuff because we're going off the college.

anyways, we get to the subject of me and I talk about how there were obstacles in my life and how I had to get through them even though people around me were jealous and did not like the change. I talk about what I did to change and basically i guess I gave off an air of independence. So she doesn't say anything and we talk a little more and separate to go home. before she goes home she says "by the way I don't think you can get through life alone. we all need someone"

lemme know what you think about what she said. maybe i'm reading too much into it? thanks guys.:cheer:
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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wow, Viper's pity thread baits everyone into commenting...mine gets 39 views and nothing...

seriously at least when you take the time to leave me a comment you know im gonna do something

^bump^
 

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I think it may mean something, she may be making some sorta offer or something along those lines, but it's impossible to tell with the given info. Either way it's all about what you think about what she said, you have to live with you after all.
 

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Potbelly said:
I went out to eat with this girl I'm interested in two days ago. We're "friends" but not friend zone friends since I've never listened to her problems, wasn't a shoulder to cry on, etc.

so basically we're tlaking then we go to a park to sit down for a while. I sstart asking her what she wants to do and stuff because we're going off the college.

anyways, we get to the subject of me and I talk about how there were obstacles in my life and how I had to get through them even though people around me were jealous and did not like the change. I talk about what I did to change and basically i guess I gave off an air of independence. So she doesn't say anything and we talk a little more and separate to go home. before she goes home she says "by the way I don't think you can get through life alone. we all need someone"

lemme know what you think about what she said. maybe i'm reading too much into it? thanks guys.:cheer:

To quote Rollo: "If you're not fvcking her you're her girlfriend." 'nuff said.
 

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True Wolf, I agree. I think I am overanalyzing.

Karma...I dunno man. I think the prevailing notion on this board is that you gotta **** **** fvk, but I don't think so. Just because I'm not fvcking her doesn't mean I'm in the friend zone. But yeah I will keep that in mind as I get older.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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