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Been down this road before and it’s been awhile since I’ve been back to SS.

Just cracked open a beer to share my handling of a situation thus far.

been dating this girl for about years and actually let her stay at my place for the last year and a half. Figured it would be easier as my schedule and the 40 min drive back and forth was a pain.

so things were getting rocky the last few months, (her withholding sex, getting a little disrespectful, and complaining every 10 min).

She’s a bartender, and happens to work with a friend of mine. 4 days ago she leaves for work and comes back her normal time. When talking to my friend, I asked if they had a busy night which was rough because you’re girlfriend wasn’t there. News to me.

Later that morning I asked her how her night was at work and she tells me she didn’t go but went to look at a condo and decided to rent it and move out next week.

she goes into details that she knows “we” are not happy and the space will do is good so we can work on “our” relationship. She gives me the verbal list of all the things I’ve done in the past and how this whole thing is my fault.

there’s no begging from me, no promises to change, and no being extra nice. I congratulated her on her new adventure and said I’d help her pack her things.

Im pretty sure she’s starting to second guess herself as I asked how much the place was and kind of laughed and said “good-luck”.

Feel like I’m hiding in my office for the next week when she’s in the house avoiding her. She asked me to go to dinner with her last night. I politely declined and was questioned 30 times as to why I would not go. “Politely” went out the door on question 35.

I’m pretty sure I’ve got this. Feel a little cruddy inside, but that’ll go away. In the end I feel there was absolutely no ROI to the time put in.

Thanks for the read and I’ll be around the next few weeks refreshing myself with some good posts here. Cheers!
 

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Been down this road before and it’s been awhile since I’ve been back to SS.

Just cracked open a beer to share my handling of a situation thus far.

been dating this girl for about years and actually let her stay at my place for the last year and a half. Figured it would be easier as my schedule and the 40 min drive back and forth was a pain.

so things were getting rocky the last few months, (her withholding sex, getting a little disrespectful, and complaining every 10 min).

She’s a bartender, and happens to work with a friend of mine. 4 days ago she leaves for work and comes back her normal time. When talking to my friend, I asked if they had a busy night which was rough because you’re girlfriend wasn’t there. News to me.

Later that morning I asked her how her night was at work and she tells me she didn’t go but went to look at a condo and decided to rent it and move out next week.

she goes into details that she knows “we” are not happy and the space will do is good so we can work on “our” relationship. She gives me the verbal list of all the things I’ve done in the past and how this whole thing is my fault.

there’s no begging from me, no promises to change, and no being extra nice. I congratulated her on her new adventure and said I’d help her pack her things.

Im pretty sure she’s starting to second guess herself as I asked how much the place was and kind of laughed and said “good-luck”.

Feel like I’m hiding in my office for the next week when she’s in the house avoiding her. She asked me to go to dinner with her last night. I politely declined and was questioned 30 times as to why I would not go. “Politely” went out the door on question 35.

I’m pretty sure I’ve got this. Feel a little cruddy inside, but that’ll go away. In the end I feel there was absolutely no ROI to the time put in.

Thanks for the read and I’ll be around the next few weeks refreshing myself with some good posts here. Cheers!
Proud of you man. I think you handled the situation well.

I've actually said this to girls I dated, and it can sound like Im being a d**k but its the truth, if you are not happy or fulfilled there's the door. Good luck. Nobody should be begging and lowering their worth/value for someone that does not fully appreciate your presence in their life.

If at a given moment that person decides to walk away, you show them the door. Poltitely like you did. Worst thing you can do is get worked up, letting your emotions get the best of you, and react.

Again, good frame on your part. Keep us posted on your progress and new chapter.


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Always care less about the relationship than they do. Honor respect, and loyalty are not things that mean as much to women as they do men. Her getting a new place was a big disrespect to you and your relationship. Always let them go when they pull stunts like this. She has no desire to work things out, that was all lip service. But she does want to blame this on you. Typical female mode of operation. There is probably a new guy sniffing around that she is interested in. Keep calm and move on. There is no shortage of women out there.
 

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Always care less about the relationship than they do. Honor respect, and loyalty are not things that mean as much to women as they do men. Her getting a new place was a big disrespect to you and your relationship. Always let them go when they pull stunts like this. She has no desire to work things out, that was all lip service. But she does want to blame this on you. Typical female mode of operation. There is probably a new guy sniffing around that she is interested in. Keep calm and move on. There is no shortage of women out there.
Gotta say I did allow myself to act a little like the relationship was a little more important on my end which is where I noticed a shift in control and the start of disrespectful behavior.

Once they start with the conversations of how things were in the beginning and how you’ve changed, it’s a big indicator things are going to end.
 

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Been down this road before and it’s been awhile since I’ve been back to SS.

Just cracked open a beer to share my handling of a situation thus far.

been dating this girl for about years and actually let her stay at my place for the last year and a half. Figured it would be easier as my schedule and the 40 min drive back and forth was a pain.

so things were getting rocky the last few months, (her withholding sex, getting a little disrespectful, and complaining every 10 min).

She’s a bartender, and happens to work with a friend of mine. 4 days ago she leaves for work and comes back her normal time. When talking to my friend, I asked if they had a busy night which was rough because you’re girlfriend wasn’t there. News to me.

Later that morning I asked her how her night was at work and she tells me she didn’t go but went to look at a condo and decided to rent it and move out next week.

she goes into details that she knows “we” are not happy and the space will do is good so we can work on “our” relationship. She gives me the verbal list of all the things I’ve done in the past and how this whole thing is my fault.

there’s no begging from me, no promises to change, and no being extra nice. I congratulated her on her new adventure and said I’d help her pack her things.

Im pretty sure she’s starting to second guess herself as I asked how much the place was and kind of laughed and said “good-luck”.

Feel like I’m hiding in my office for the next week when she’s in the house avoiding her. She asked me to go to dinner with her last night. I politely declined and was questioned 30 times as to why I would not go. “Politely” went out the door on question 35.

I’m pretty sure I’ve got this. Feel a little cruddy inside, but that’ll go away. In the end I feel there was absolutely no ROI to the time put in.

Thanks for the read and I’ll be around the next few weeks refreshing myself with some good posts here. Cheers!
Good job OP. Take your licks inside but be merciless and give 0 ****s.
Work on you and you will figure out how you got there.
Batistas are tough
 

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Always care less about the relationship than they do. Honor respect, and loyalty are not things that mean as much to women as they do men. Her getting a new place was a big disrespect to you and your relationship. Always let them go when they pull stunts like this. She has no desire to work things out, that was all lip service. But she does want to blame this on you. Typical female mode of operation. There is probably a new guy sniffing around that she is interested in. Keep calm and move on. There is no shortage of women out there.
Howie man this is a good one. Well said.
 

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Been down this road before and it’s been awhile since I’ve been back to SS.

Just cracked open a beer to share my handling of a situation thus far.

been dating this girl for about years and actually let her stay at my place for the last year and a half. Figured it would be easier as my schedule and the 40 min drive back and forth was a pain.

so things were getting rocky the last few months, (her withholding sex, getting a little disrespectful, and complaining every 10 min).

She’s a bartender, and happens to work with a friend of mine. 4 days ago she leaves for work and comes back her normal time. When talking to my friend, I asked if they had a busy night which was rough because you’re girlfriend wasn’t there. News to me.

Later that morning I asked her how her night was at work and she tells me she didn’t go but went to look at a condo and decided to rent it and move out next week.

she goes into details that she knows “we” are not happy and the space will do is good so we can work on “our” relationship. She gives me the verbal list of all the things I’ve done in the past and how this whole thing is my fault.

there’s no begging from me, no promises to change, and no being extra nice. I congratulated her on her new adventure and said I’d help her pack her things.

Im pretty sure she’s starting to second guess herself as I asked how much the place was and kind of laughed and said “good-luck”.

Feel like I’m hiding in my office for the next week when she’s in the house avoiding her. She asked me to go to dinner with her last night. I politely declined and was questioned 30 times as to why I would not go. “Politely” went out the door on question 35.

I’m pretty sure I’ve got this. Feel a little cruddy inside, but that’ll go away. In the end I feel there was absolutely no ROI to the time put in.

Thanks for the read and I’ll be around the next few weeks refreshing myself with some good posts here. Cheers!
She probably started banging another dude.
 

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She probably started banging another dude.
This is always my first thought. In this case her cell is connected to my network. I should not have cared enough to look but I did. I can’t find anything text or call that is suspicious.

she could have a burner phone but that doesn’t seem like something she would do.

For right now her presence in my house is holding up my healing process.
 

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This I recognize now. It takes a bit to figure it out how women try to rationalize or straight out lie to gain the upper hand in any situation. Some are better than others.
Yes.
Get your head from the idea of being Bf to use her for practice. Frame practice walking away etc etc. If you still want to **** her treat her like the little bytch slutz she is.
 

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Yes.
Get your head from the idea of being Bf to use her for practice. Frame practice walking away etc etc. If you still want to **** her treat her like the little bytch slutz she is.
Nah I wouldn't even interact with her once she has finished moving out. I would however change the locks the day after. Become extremely busy with your life and plan projects to keep your mind off her. Once your mindset is a little clearer I would start to spin plates.

Remember everything that has happened is "YOUR" fault and will always remain so (well in her mind anyway). Even if you two were to reconcile later she will always tell her friends that you fu(ked up and she had to remind you who's in charge as shes the boss ................ cue her friends all yelping in succession "You go girrrrl !!!" "Yea keep him on a tight leash babe and dump if he screws up again".

So accept everything the way it is and protect the heart for the inevitable end of this relationship and don't rummage through the rubbish once it's been taken out. As rollo says salvaging a dying relationship is never worth the hassle as starting fresh with a new woman.

You lost the frame a few years ago (unfortunately) and she doesn't respect you anymore ............... she's only going to be concerned of you not caring because in her hamster wheel mind up till now she controlled everything and with you going cold it throws the hamster into overdrive. Any momentary change in her behavior is only done to console her ego and again assert her dominance of you and to regain the frame ..... You can get some quick sex BUT don't fall into any trap of hers.
 

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Nah I wouldn't even interact with her once she has finished moving out. I would however change the locks the day after. Become extremely busy with your life and plan projects to keep your mind off her. Once your mindset is a little clearer I would start to spin plates.

Remember everything that has happened is "YOUR" fault and will always remain so (well in her mind anyway). Even if you two were to reconcile later she will always tell her friends that you fu(ked up and she had to remind you who's in charge as shes the boss ................ cue her friends all yelping in succession "You go girrrrl !!!" "Yea keep him on a tight leash babe and dump if he screws up again".

So accept everything the way it is and protect the heart for the inevitable end of this relationship and don't rummage through the rubbish once it's been taken out. As rollo says salvaging a dying relationship is never worth the hassle as starting fresh with a new woman.

You lost the frame a few years ago (unfortunately) and she doesn't respect you anymore ............... she's only going to be concerned of you not caring because in her hamster wheel mind up till now she controlled everything and with you going cold it throws the hamster into overdrive. Any momentary change in her behavior is only done to console her ego and again assert her dominance of you and to regain the frame ..... You can get some quick sex BUT don't fall into any trap of hers.
My goal is to never interact with her again. Just delete.

A few years back I was in a horrible place with a break up and found SS. I had no idea what to do and so many people here put me on the right path to recovery.

I stopped checking in thinking I was fine. Spinning plates, working on me, ad having a blast.

I think somewhere in me there’s an issue with believing that there is someone to settle down with, and I guess I inevitably put them on some sort of pedestal and lose frame.

my SMV is still high, but I think as I get older I start to doubt myself, which in turn leads to a control shift.

at least in this break-up I have a lot more clarity.
 

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Nah I wouldn't even interact with her once she has finished moving out. I would however change the locks the day after. Become extremely busy with your life and plan projects to keep your mind off her. Once your mindset is a little clearer I would start to spin plates.

Remember everything that has happened is "YOUR" fault and will always remain so (well in her mind anyway). Even if you two were to reconcile later she will always tell her friends that you fu(ked up and she had to remind you who's in charge as shes the boss ................ cue her friends all yelping in succession "You go girrrrl !!!" "Yea keep him on a tight leash babe and dump if he screws up again".

So accept everything the way it is and protect the heart for the inevitable end of this relationship and don't rummage through the rubbish once it's been taken out. As rollo says salvaging a dying relationship is never worth the hassle as starting fresh with a new woman.

You lost the frame a few years ago (unfortunately) and she doesn't respect you anymore ............... she's only going to be concerned of you not caring because in her hamster wheel mind up till now she controlled everything and with you going cold it throws the hamster into overdrive. Any momentary change in her behavior is only done to console her ego and again assert her dominance of you and to regain the frame ..... You can get some quick sex BUT don't fall into any trap of hers.
I said if he still wanted to smash. Some guys can handle it. I have 1 girl my entire life I didnt smash after breakup.
And it gives him a upper hand.

Why do you think alpha dudes want to fck lesser dudes in the azz in prison. Why do women submit? They submit to your cok.
This is about fcking not the feeeelzzz. Thats what got him into a dynamic of her cucking his azz and withholding sex
 

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Any momentary change in her behavior is only done to console her ego and again assert her dominance of you and to regain the frame ..... You can get some quick sex BUT don't fall into any trap of hers.
Mentaly strong dudes can do this. This is a fcking game not a map of emotions.
If he knew what "monetary change" meant from the beginning he wouldn't be on SS listening to this garbage. If he would listen to String he would be smashing her puzz and then kicking her to the curb instead of "hiding in his office"
Gimme a fcking break already
 

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Mentaly strong dudes can do this. This is a fcking game not a map of emotions.
If he knew what "monetary change" meant from the beginning he wouldn't be on SS listening to this garbage. If he would listen to String he would be smashing her puzz and then kicking her to the curb instead of "hiding in his office"
Gimme a fcking break already
You're different man, you've learned and applied the teachings to yourself and have a tonne of foresight and perhaps already had many of these attributes before getting on SS. Many of these guys lack that foundation level thinking and will only make more mistakes and complicate things.

We can't expect them to sprint before they've even learnt to walk my man.
 

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Indeed some of us guys have a lot to learn. I do appreciate the advice.
She finally got all of her belongings yesterday afternoon and is gone. I took the advice of the locks being changed and notified the guard gate not to let her through.
I used the term “hiding in my office” as I tried to stay away from her emotional rollercoaster and trying to put me down every chance she had.
Yesterday before her leaving she walked into my office and said everything is packed and I’m leaving. Do you have anything you want to say?
I replied with: Umm, have a Happy Thanksgiving and a Merry Christmas??
She asked me to giver her a hug……. I did (my bad) and she just started crying.
She said you can call me anytime you need to. I said take care of yourself and be safe.
In the end I guess I could have boned her one more time, but didn’t think it was good for me.
I put a list together of the things I need to work on (including buying a second home up north), to make sure I maximize my time while getting over the “feelzies”.
 

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As soon as your girl starts acting like a b!tch, give that b!tch her key and get the fvck up out that muhfvcka.

Glad you didn't start acting like a spineless pvssy with her.
 
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