"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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A $7000 MISTAKE! How do i recover?

Poop1337

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Yes girls can be this cold. You were a real sucker. I've done sucker things too. When you lend money to friends and single moms understand that you likely will never see it again. Your little note means jack ****. Even if you win a lawsuit against her do you know how to garnish wages etc I mean all you get from winning the lawsuit is an expensive piece of paper? So if you higher a lawyer yes you wrote in legal fees to be paid and if this goes to trial which the ammount she owes you is more than most small claims court handle this is going to cost you thousands in attorneys fees that they will make you pay upfront. No promise you win and no promise that if you win she will have any assets they can just get for you. You should have attached the car as collateral making it legal for you to just repo it if she stops paying.

Older women disgust me. Like even if a woman was attractive just finding out she is older than me is a turn off. In fact women around my age even if a couple years younger don't do it for me. I'd consider screwing some young single mother but I'd sooner borrow 7k from her then lend it. You need to think more predatory when dealing with these scourge of society. They'll like you more and you'll like you more. For the most part I just want single young girls.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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blind_one

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Could have been worse. Just stay away from this toxic b!tch and never look back. If she stops paying, do not hesitate to go for your money.
 

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Once a SM realizes you're not a sucker who will be a surrogate father for her children, she'll usually bolt.

They're in the game for one reason: to find a surrogate father for their kids. All the "freak in bed" stuff is designed to hook you. Once they realize you can't be hooked, they're out and they don't look back.

Good post OP, you got a hard lesson but it could have been FAR worse.
 

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Thanks Zarky. Everyone makes mistakes but some mistakes just feel like ****, too bad we cant go back in time.
 

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After close to 3 months of no contact..here is what she texted me...


"Can you email me a list of all the bad things about me please. I would really appreciate it. Thanks!"

WTF is this??

and of course I didn't respond.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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What is $7,000? Give her the balance of the note, and take the tax deduction, 1099 earned income guised as a "note," or so you will claim.

Cut all ties, and walk away. Your value is greater than any thoughts you are currently entertaining.
 

Harry Wilmington

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If there's nothing else you learn from this whole thing, at least learn this: do NOT send her any emails, text, etc. that could be used against you in a court of law. Like, seriously - you sending her an email listing all of her BAD qualities may sound good in theory, but women have a way of being able to take anything you send them via texting, email or messaging, twist the words around, and use them against you for whatever purpose they have. If she really wants you to list things off, that would be something you'd do in person so you could make sure she wasn't recording it over the phone, but definitely do NOT do this. BTW, this is another reason I'm really against texting - so many dudes send messages to girls not realizing most of them keep it to either mock, laugh at, or use for their own personal enjoyment later, and it's NOT cool, especially when a break up is going down and she's feeling bitter.
 

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Harry Wilmington said:
If there's nothing else you learn from this whole thing, at least learn this: do NOT send her any emails, text, etc. that could be used against you in a court of law. Like, seriously - you sending her an email listing all of her BAD qualities may sound good in theory, but women have a way of being able to take anything you send them via texting, email or messaging, twist the words around, and use them against you for whatever purpose they have. If she really wants you to list things off, that would be something you'd do in person so you could make sure she wasn't recording it over the phone, but definitely do NOT do this. BTW, this is another reason I'm really against texting - so many dudes send messages to girls not realizing most of them keep it to either mock, laugh at, or use for their own personal enjoyment later, and it's NOT cool, especially when a break up is going down and she's feeling bitter.
I tell you what Harry, that's exactly what one of my friend who is an attorney told me. Females are sly cats, who clean REALLY WELL after themselves and keep any tools they have sharpened ready to strike you. Why give them the upper edge by yielding to their requests and other bs. Again, great response, that is exactly the mindset I have right now. Silence sometimes is the best way to go.
 
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