90% Men are Invisible

[plumber]

Dating apps are a cesspool of low-quality women overall, even if they are hot, if a man is using dating apps to find girlfriend he is doing it wrong IMO. Sure you might find a gem here and there, but MOST women on dating apps are pump-and-dump or FWB material at best.

is it the same for men. lower quality men go to the apps ?? so it ends up being a big pool of low quality.

 

[quodlibet]

^ Anything bad that can be said about women on dating apps can be said about guys. Guys might even be worse.

A decade ago when the dating site Plenty of Fish was popular, one of my coworkers was on it. This coworker is bottom of the barrel: late 30s, 120 pounds overweight and (hate to be cruel) has a Down Syndrome appearance.

When she quit the site, she gave me the password so I can log in and see the messages.

Despite her appearance, she got a CRAPLOAD of guys messaging her and asking her out. She can go out with a new guy 2-3 times a week if she wanted.

A lot of guys on dating sites have ZERO standards. I still remember one guy, as a first message, sent her an audio where he composed a song with her name in it.

 

[HaleyBaron]

^ Anything bad that can be said about women on dating apps can be said about guys. Guys might even be worse.

A decade ago when the dating site Plenty of Fish was popular, one of my coworkers was on it. This coworker is bottom of the barrel: late 30s, 120 pounds overweight and (hate to be cruel) has a Down Syndrome appearance.

When she quit the site, she gave me the password so I can log in and see the messages.

Despite her appearance, she got a CRAPLOAD of guys messaging her and asking her out. She can go out with a new guy 2-3 times a week if she wanted.

A lot of guys on dating sites have ZERO standards. I still remember one guy, as a first message, sent her an audio where he composed a song with her name in it.

I'll never forget PoF. Lowest of the barrel there. I am not surprised even the ugliest get called on there.

I have a friend who is not pretty at all. A girl who refuses to dress up in women clothing. A guy literally drove six hours to go **** her. We're talking a half a day trip to get laid.

 

[CornbreadFed]

I object to the premise on its face. If you label someone a 10, then you meet someone better, how do you give them extra points? Once you label someone a 10, there's nowhere to go but down. Post me a pic of a perfect 10 if you think they exist. They might be a 10 to you, but I bet someone would rate them lower. I know I would, because I don't believe in labeling humans as 10s. And damn few even get the 9.

You're dodging the question, though. If she's not a 10, what exactly are you taking the point off for? Her teeth? Eyebrows? Nose? Smile? What's the flaw?

Just saying "someone hotter might exist" doesn't answer that. As a result, you are leaving room for some hypothetical woman you've never even seen.

If nobody can ever be a 10 because someone better could always come along, then you're not really using a 10-point scale. You just made the top number impossible for no reason.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Here's why there are no perfect 10 women.....because every single beautiful girl that ever graced the pages of Maxim or Playboy or Sports Illustrated swimsuit edition back when they were the standard had been air brushed to some extent or Posed in a position to make their body look the best it can. They were 9's made to look like 10's.

And if you want to ruin the illusion sit in the parking lot of a strip club and watch the talent walk in. I promise once they get their hair, makeup, and heels on you will rate them much higher than when they first walked thru the door looking like a average girls.

Not all butts look good naked when they bend over. Not all boobs look good when they fall out of a bra.

Take a look at hugh hefners 3 blonde girlfriends(holly, bridget, Kendra). They looked great in the magazine but when they were shown in their reality tv show as everyday people they werent so beautiful.

Perfect 10's are only in magazines. There is a reason that saying was common for so many years.

I cannot really argue because I've never been into the stereotypical Playboy blonde look, nor have I ever looked at a Playboy magazine. American blondes generally aren't my type.

My personal 10:

A nerdy British girl with resting ***** face, or a Middle Eastern, Southeastern European, Northern Indian, or Southeast Asian ABG with dyed hair. She must have a natural proportional body type, eyes that give that stare, no rotten or missing teeth, no tattoos, above-average IQ, etc.

However, my personal 10 isn't the same as a market 10. The overall SMV market doesn't care what my niche preferences are. A market 10 is the woman who is in such high demand that she's being pursued by celebrities, athletes, billionaires, agencies, and wealthy men with virtually unlimited options. That's a different conversation than asking who I find most attractive.

As a result, a 10 to me could be an 8 in the market, and a market 10 could only be an 8 to me.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

That means, there's literally someone for everyone.

nope

Even if it's true that women only want top notch men, there's not enough of these men to go around. 80-90% of men eventually end up married, not just the top.

the women are sharing the top 10-20% of men, it's simple.

Thinking back, I've had a good number of girls pursue me. I was just too socially awkward. I was also what many consider a "low value male". I was only 5'5, total geek and hopelessly awkward. So if someone like that can get pursuers, then it's not just top 10% of men.

How hot were these women?

 

[zekko]

You're dodging the question, though. If she's not a 10, what exactly are you taking the point off for? Her teeth? Eyebrows? Nose? Smile? What's the flaw?

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Depends on the woman, but there's always a flaw. If she was perfect, she wouldn't age and she'd live forever. Maybe her breath is bad aftr she eats onions. Feel free to label women 10s if you want, but that's not my philosophy, I will never call a woman (or a man, for that matter) a 10. IMO, the 10 represents the ideal, which can never be reached. If nothing else, that's putting her on a pedestal.

 

[CornbreadFed]

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Depends on the woman, but there's always a flaw. If she was perfect, she wouldn't age and she'd live forever. Maybe her breath is bad aftr she eats onions. Feel free to label women 10s if you want, but that's not my philosophy, I will never call a woman (or a man, for that matter) a 10. IMO, the 10 represents the ideal, which can never be reached. If nothing else, that's putting her on a pedestal.

sounds like to me that you want Android 18 haha

 

[quodlibet]

the women are sharing the top 10-20% of men, it's simple.

It's beyond bizarre to think only 20% of men are actively dating, in relationships and get married.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

It's beyond bizarre to think only 20% of men are actively dating, in relationships and get married.

. About 70% of American men are in some sort of relationship.

 

[zekko]

sounds like to me that you want Android 18 haha

No, I'm saying Android 18 doesn't exist.

 

[MatureDJ]

I object to the premise on its face. If you label someone a 10, then you meet someone better, how do you give them extra points? Once you label someone a 10, there's nowhere to go but down. Post me a pic of a perfect 10 if you think they exist. They might be a 10 to you, but I bet someone would rate them lower. I know I would, because I don't believe in labeling humans as 10s. And damn few even get the 9.

It's like dealing with someone that had escaped from Death Row - if there is anyone that has nothing to lose, it's him!

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

. About 70% of American men are in some sort of relationship.

that seems high, but consider most of them are probably 50+. the men who aren't getting a crumb of pvssy are the men in the 18-30 demo

 

[Solomon]

I'll never forget PoF. Lowest of the barrel there. I am not surprised even the ugliest get called on there.

I have a friend who is not pretty at all. A girl who refuses to dress up in women clothing. A guy literally drove six hours to go **** her. We're talking a half a day trip to get laid.

Driving 6 hours to get laid is insanse. I used to work at a woodshop in my early 20s, and there was a guy who drove 12 hours to Florida but it was a girl who was a model not saying it's bet but at least I can understand the reasoning behind that. But driving 6 hours to bang a 4 or less, the guy must have been ugly too or down bad.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Here's why there are no perfect 10 women.....because every single beautiful girl that ever graced the pages of Maxim or Playboy or Sports Illustrated swimsuit edition back when they were the standard had been air brushed to some extent or Posed in a position to make their body look the best it can. They were 9's made to look like 10's.

And if you want to ruin the illusion sit in the parking lot of a strip club and watch the talent walk in. I promise once they get their hair, makeup, and heels on you will rate them much higher than when they first walked thru the door looking like a average girls.

Not all butts look good naked when they bend over. Not all boobs look good when they fall out of a bra.

Take a look at hugh hefners 3 blonde girlfriends(holly, bridget, Kendra). They looked great in the magazine but when they were shown in their reality tv show as everyday people they werent so beautiful.

Perfect 10's are only in magazines. There is a reason that saying was common for so many years.

I waa once committed to enlightening folks to this fact of life, then I realized... When, after all these decades, the majority of mankind STILL believes that

-Shooting two handguns at once in a firefight is effective

-A helicopter will automatically explode, the minute a bullet slams into it's gas tank

-People die instantaneously after being stabbed through the neck once

Etc etc, just because they saw all this crap onscreen, chances of dispelling deeply ingrained myths to any substantial degree are weaker than Putin leaving office voluntarily