90% Men are Invisible

[Bigpapa]

I cannot speak for everyone else but for me a woman cannot be a 10 if she is insufferable, rude, selfish, manipulative, or crazy etc. I know the conversation is mainly about looks but I have always factored personality into the rating. There is nothing more draining than a hot woman with a dimwit personality who is also shallow. Looks alone stop mattering fast when the attitude is that bad.

Plenty of so - so or ugly women whom are insufferable, rude, selfish, manipulative, crazy, etc

actually, the worst attitude i got was from average and bellow average girls, even in non seduction situations

same when it came to massive sh1t tests

Not to mention dating apps

 

[Solomon]

Plenty of so - so or ugly women whom are insufferable, rude, selfish, manipulative, crazy, etc

actually, the worst attitude i got was from average and bellow average girls, even in non seduction situations

same when it came to massive sh1t tests

Not to mention dating apps

Well that's a given, but personally for me I don't deal with insufferable women even if they're HOT or Average. As you mentioned before they are well-mannered and socially calibrated hot chicks out there. But you won't find them on dating apps or at a club

Dating apps are a cesspool of low-quality women overall, even if they are hot, if a man is using dating apps to find girlfriend he is doing it wrong IMO. Sure you might find a gem here and there, but MOST women on dating apps are pump-and-dump or FWB material at best.

 

[BaronOfHair]

The more attractive she is the more society caters to her, the less she develops social skills that help navigate life. Why should she, she can rely on her looks. Hang around pretty girls and see all the special attention and freebies they get. They get their drinks comped at bars often. They get in for free. Rich dudes give them credit cards and fly them nice places and many don't even have to drop their panties. They get moved to the front of the line. It creates entitled wh0res.

Yep, outward apperances are frequently deceiving... There's no shortage of RL versions of Katie Beth Sue

18:23-18:55 among us

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Women Find 80% Of Men Unattractive, Says Crazy Study

How is this even possible???

www.yourtango.com

 

[quodlibet]

Women Find 80% Of Men Unattractive, Says Crazy Study

How is this even possible???

www.yourtango.com

What's wrong with this? I also find 80% of women unattractive. Even more.

Bro, I'm not going to hook up with anyone I think is rated under a 7.

 

[CornbreadFed]

I cannot speak for everyone else but for me a woman cannot be a 10 if she is insufferable, rude, selfish, manipulative, or crazy etc. I know the conversation is mainly about looks but I have always factored personality into the rating. There is nothing more draining than a hot woman with a dimwit personality who is also shallow. Looks alone stop mattering fast when the attitude is that bad.

Oh, this girl is fine as hell though. Everywhere she walks, men break their necks or start simping immediately. The difference between a 10 and a 8.5 is, like I said, 10s are actively recruited and sought after by rich men. 10s are doing Epstein Island shvt while 8.5s are working regular jobs and paying for most of their bills lol.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Brings us back around to a point made elsewhere https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threa...-have-it-that-easy.286399/page-3#post-3194907

Being "visible" to women doesn't automatically guarantee to you success, especially if genuine companionship is what you're in the market for. If anything, the Wallace Shawns and John Carrol Lynchs among us are often seen as stronger candidates for LTRs

By contrast, the legions of current and former hearthrobs who were never able to hold down a marriage or something close to it number in the 100s of millions

 

[zekko]

They do exist, but you won’t ever see them because they live in a different reality than the average person.

I don't believe in 10s. It's admittedly a rather subjective statement - you can take the prettiest woman in the world and arbitrarily assign her a 9.9 or whatever you like. But no such thing as 10s is part of my personal philosophy. No woman is literally perfect.

 

[The Duke]

What's wrong with this? I also find 80% of women unattractive. Even more.

Bro, I'm not going to hook up with anyone I think is rated under a 7.

For many years, every time I walk into a public place I scan the room looking for the most attractive women. I'm lucky if I find 10% of the females attractive enough that I would be interested in getting to know them.

 

[HaleyBaron]

Saw this video, nothing new, but I thought it was interesting. It's by notorious black piller Wheat Waffles, but I thought it was better than most of his stuff, thought it made a lot of sense.

I have never really bought into the idea that women only wanted bad boys, and this helps explain it better IMO. According to this, women are really just attracted to the good looking men. But the good looking men with good personalities have girlfriends or wives - or are quickly snapped up - so they're not really on OLD, or on the market. The good looking men who are left are the bad boys. So girls go for the good looking guy, but they turn out to be bad boys. And of course the average looking guys are basically ignored.

If men were invisible, they would be able to rape and steal from women with ease. It's not about visibility. It's about presence.

Well that's a given, but personally for me I don't deal with insufferable women even if they're HOT or Average. As you mentioned before they are well-mannered and socially calibrated hot chicks out there. But you won't find them on dating apps or at a club

Ironic that you disputed this in my thread, but then come here and admit that hot women can be insufferable, too. Ha!

 

[Solomon]

If men were invisible, they would be able to rape and steal from women with ease. It's not about visibility. It's about presence.

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Ironic that you disputed this in my thread, but then come here and admit that hot women can be insufferable, too. Ha!

I rather bang a hot insufferable woman than an average one bwhahahaha

 

[HaleyBaron]

I rather bang a hot insufferable woman than an average one bwhahahaha

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That'll be $1k for the night. At minimum.

 

[zekko]

When I was in my teens and early 20s, I was incel as f-ck. Thinking back, I've had a good number of girls pursue me. I was just too socially awkward. I was also what many consider a "low value male". I was only 5'5, total geek and hopelessly awkward. So if someone like that can get pursuers, then it's not just top 10% of men.

Yeah, I think the video is interesting, and does serve to explain a few things, but I don't believe in the black pill to the extent that Wheat Waffles does. If the video were literally true, I couldn't explain myself. I certainly don't consider myself in the top 10% of men looks-wise. But I've always been able to get women, outside of a nasty dry spell I had in my early 20s. I think I was too scrawny at the time. Things got better when I got into lifting. I don't have an Abercrombie or bodybuilder physique, but bulking up definitely helped me.

 

[MatureDJ]

It's Visually OVER for Sub90%Cels.

 

[CornbreadFed]

I don't believe in 10s. It's admittedly a rather subjective statement - you can take the prettiest woman in the world and arbitrarily assign her a 9.9 or whatever you like. But no such thing as 10s is part of my personal philosophy. No woman is literally perfect.

people that say they don’t believe in 10s probably live in some suburb in Ohio lol. I said the exact same thing until I left bum frvck Tennessee.

 

[zekko]

people that say they don’t believe in 10s probably live in some suburb in Ohio lol. I said the exact same thing until I left bum frvck Tennessee.

No one is perfect, that's a fact.
10 is an arbitrary label. You might as well say "my amp goes to 11".
I don't believe in the concept.

 

[CornbreadFed]

No one is perfect, that's a fact.
10 is an arbitrary label. You might as well say "my amp goes to 11".
I don't believe in the concept.

Let’s say you rent a hypothetical 10/10 as an escort for a few hours. What are you going to be looking for to deduct this 1/10th of a point from her? Are you going to be deducting points from teeth size? Imperfect eyebrows?

 

[zekko]

Let’s say you rent a hypothetical 10/10 as an escort for a few hours. What are you going to be looking for to deduct this 1/10th of a point from her? Are you going to be deducting points from teeth size? Imperfect eyebrows?

I object to the premise on its face. If you label someone a 10, then you meet someone better, how do you give them extra points? Once you label someone a 10, there's nowhere to go but down. Post me a pic of a perfect 10 if you think they exist. They might be a 10 to you, but I bet someone would rate them lower. I know I would, because I don't believe in labeling humans as 10s. And damn few even get the 9.

 

[The Duke]

Let’s say you rent a hypothetical 10/10 as an escort for a few hours. What are you going to be looking for to deduct this 1/10th of a point from her? Are you going to be deducting points from teeth size? Imperfect eyebrows?

Here's why there are no perfect 10 women.....because every single beautiful girl that ever graced the pages of Maxim or Playboy or Sports Illustrated swimsuit edition back when they were the standard had been air brushed to some extent or Posed in a position to make their body look the best it can. They were 9's made to look like 10's.

And if you want to ruin the illusion sit in the parking lot of a strip club and watch the talent walk in. I promise once they get their hair, makeup, and heels on you will rate them much higher than when they first walked thru the door looking like a average girls.

Not all butts look good naked when they bend over. Not all boobs look good when they fall out of a bra.

Take a look at hugh hefners 3 blonde girlfriends(holly, bridget, Kendra). They looked great in the magazine but when they were shown in their reality tv show as everyday people they werent so beautiful.

Perfect 10's are only in magazines. There is a reason that saying was common for so many years.

 

[Velasco]

Take a look at hugh hefners 3 blonde girlfriends(holly, bridget, Kendra). They looked great in the magazine but when they were shown in their reality tv show as everyday people they werent so beautiful.

even when they’re all done up they’re still not 10s

but that’s my point. what a girl does for a living has nothing to do with how beautiful she is. whether it’s getting to live in the playboy mansion. getting flown out to epsteins island

being an international world renowned successful supermodel

you could easily find a girl prettier than all these girls bartending at some sh1t hole bar/restaurant