"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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eminence

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I have been reading threads off of this website almost daily for 7 months, and I realized today that I have not changed at all.

Today one of my ex's friends come in and she tells me that she heard about how dumb of a reason it was that my ex broke up with me: because i'm too nice.

fvck me. i wish I could of saw it before, but everything I read I just through out the window. I disregarded all the rules and it ****ed me until the end.

I wish I knew how I could change myself. In general I am way too nice of a guy and I see it now. I have trouble saying no to people, i'm bad with asserting myself, and i'm always trying to avoid conflicts and confrontations.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Normally I like to avoid whiners who probably have not read the article or followed through with the advice. If you are still acting like a nice guy, then of course she's gonna dump you for being to nice. Be a good man, not a nice guy. Learn when to say no by having a five-ten second rule before responding to someone so you can decide if it really is worth saying yes. Also, are you blaming this site for getting dumped??! It doesn't instantly make you a pimp lord, you have to make changed to yourself. Sosuave.com/net is a tool, not a super secret power that turns you into a ladies man just by looking at it.

My advice to you is to look back and see what YOU did wrong. Maybe read the DJ Bible and Highschool Bible, as well as any post by Pook. Then, you'll probably see all of your mistakes, hit yourself on the head, and go on with your life.
 

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You have to apply what you learn. You can't just read a bunch of stuff and not implement it.

About a year and a half ago, I bought a workout book with a bunch of exercises explained, with pictures, training routines, etc. I read it all. Did that make my muscles bigger? No, I had to go out and start lifting to make the difference.
 

eminence

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im not whining or blaming anyone except myself, i just needed to put my thoughts down somewhere and was hoping for a few outlooks on it. normally I don't even make threads asking for help but ive been in such a ****ty mood lately, and this really topped it off.

First this girl tells me that all I am is mean to her. I was using a lot of funny neg hits that were making her laugh...but she says I made her feel like ****. so I questioned myself and turned around back into the nice guy, and not being funny at all. it's hard for me to find a good mix of the two, i'm either way too nice, way too goofy, or way too much of a prick.
 

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So, if YOU are too much of a nice guy, don't be YOU... don't take every mother's advice of "just be yourself." Because 9 times out of 10... blokes who are "themselves" are not naturally attractive to women, because 9 times out of 10 us guys are OVERLY NICE to hot chicks!

:) have a crack at some of this C+F and maybe you can say something C+F back to her (whether it be through her friends or whatever)
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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