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Funny ass video

On the note of the racism subject. Speakeasy its not labeling 40 million people for the actions of a few. Its more like 80% of those 40 million fit almost every stereotype in the damn book. Every action of the black guy was so stereotypical. Trying to act like a ****ing rapper, even after he got his face beat in "Ima kill that n*gga" such dumb sh1t. I know there are some black people who are good citizens, and actually contribute to society, but way too many are begging to fit the stereotypes about them.
 

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Here's some common sense: get off the bus and wait for the next one.

In Toronto, there are many crazies on the subway, and my self defense solution is the best one: Get off before it gets out of hand. And Im a 6'0 200lb amateur boxer. Whether it's a group of teenage rappers, a schizophrenic, loud or obnoxious trash, people arguing, drunks, etc... Just get off and wait for the next one!

What is the best possible outcome to any argument? Nothing happens. If you want to guarantee nothing happens, just get out of the damned situation! Jeez
 

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This is the most reasonable and on point response I've read on the fight yet:

http://www.allhiphop.com/stories/editorial/archive/2010/02/18/22128566.aspx

Also, more and more information is coming out about the white guy. He's not as innocent as people think he is. There is a video of him being unruly at a baseball game and having to be tasered by the cops. It's also coming out that he was being loud and belligerent on the bus before the film was rolling. Granted, the black dude shouldn't have went up to fight him, but the white dude ain't no angel either.

This is just a case of clash a between two men, one of them black trash and one white trash. That's it. Nothing more. He isn't the white man's "Rosa Parks" like some are trying make him out to be. He's about as screwed up as the guy that attacked him.

And to the last guy who said: "I'm not racist...When I think young black people, I think of degenerate, hoodlum, obnoxious, and ridiculously loud."

Seriously, you have to realize how contradictory you sound. Reading your whole post, I understand what it is you're trying to say. Trust me when I tell you, I don't care for ghetto people either, or barrio people or trailer trash people. BELIEVE ME. However, it's another thing to claim that the majority of blacks are ghetto. I'm tired of middle class blacks like myself being this invisible minority. 60% of blacks are either middle class or above. Yet hearing the stereotyping, you'd think most blacks were ghetto. During the election, they were talking about on the news how many whites don't even realize how many Obama type families there are in black America. Middle class black people with educations and jobs. People don't even notice them, they only focus on the ghetto blacks, then try and slap the label on the whole race. Nobody uses trailer hicks smoking meth as a representative example of white people, so we are tired of having it done to us.

ps - here is the girl that filmed it giving a break down of what happened leading up to it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSe3jABIyC4


You can search around on the internet for accounts, but it is starting to sound like 1) the Epic Beard Man is a lunatic and 2) He actually started the incident. Not the actual fight itself, but the incident.
 

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This is just a case of clash a between two men, one of them black trash and one white trash. That's it. Nothing more. He isn't the white man's "Rosa Parks" like some are trying make him out to be. He's about as screwed up as the guy that attacked him.
nonsense! ALL HAIL THE EPIC BEARD MAN!
 

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Armchair warriors like you have got no balls to suck.
Not like I'd let a filthy subhuman like yourself anywhere near me anyway, but ok.

Unless you're keen on spit shining my shoes... c'mon I'll give you a dollar for it. :D
 

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Not like I'd let a filthy subhuman like yourself anywhere near me anyway, but ok.

Unless you're keen on spit shining my shoes... c'mon I'll give you a dollar for it. :D
A redneck that owns a pair a shoes? That's quite an accomplishment there, bubba.

I'm guessing the stormfront dating forums must be down tonight. Or is katatonia just the latest incarnation of the banned ketostix?
 

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If for some reason the race cards comes out on this and it goes to courts I would expect riots, from white's.

sorry but there it is, both guys where in the wrong, black guy goes for white guy, white guy defends himself.

It's pritty much that simple.

Now we start seeing the ugly side of racism and the victim mentality, a lot like feminism, no one can deny this and I aint being racist, just stating the fact.

Reading the local news in the UK, the racism card seem's to have already come out to play, with the girl who shot the video, the one who told the guy to beat the white guy, saying the white guy told him to shine his shoes. Now the fact of the matter is, anyone who has watched the video and the girls confession can see who exactly is the racist here, it is her -

For this to swing to the white guy on this womans say so, whilst on FILM it shows her throwing out racist slurs like it's going out of fashion will do nothing but infurate the situation, and I believe that is why alot of posters are angry and making such statements.

Also from the youtube comments, alot of the comments about n***** have been written by black guys. I'd probably say around 50% or more of those comments are by blacks, they can call a black guy a ni***** but a white guy doing it?! that shi* is racist.

It's about time this whole racis* victim cra* was destroyed. There are twa*s on both sides of the fence, but when people abuse something like race or gender they only help to annoy the rest.

This white guy though he may have been racist was no worse then the others on that bus, no different at all.

This victim cra* needs to be destroyed, it is wrecking the country. It is clear this white guy defended himself, if this is turned around to him being racist, I believe 100% shi* will fly.

It is that simple.
 

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This thread is pathetic. Just appreciate a funny situation, good god. Hostility wont get you anywhere.
 

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speakeasy, the white guy may be insane, but he clearly moved away to avoid the fight. Yes, he talked trash in retaliation, but moving away and avoiding physical contact is about as clear-cut as you get. At its core, it's one man moving away to avoid conflict, and another escalating.

And please don't use that ho's account of events as evidence of anything. Her explanation that was posted earlier was so ridiculously self serving, she has literally no credibility.
 

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And please don't use that ho's account of events as evidence of anything. Her explanation that was posted earlier was so ridiculously self serving, she has literally no credibility.
She took the white person's bag and claims that she took it so she could hand it in to the authorities... pfft (link below)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbsX5j-8T3Y

What a lying thieving piece of ****. But what do you expect from a black person anyway? LOL
 

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I really don't get all this hate. Sure I think that white people are very oppressed in the world today. As white people we are not allowed to have any group that promotes white people like every other "race" have. We are taught that white people are bad as we grow up. We are taught that we should have guilt because our ancestors did some bad things. I really don't get why other "races" are allowed to promote their own race, their races history etc while a white person doing the same would be percieved as a racist.

Why can't people be proud to be white/black/chinese/whatever without having to spread hate among groups. I am proud to be a white person and I think white people have brought a lot of good things to the world but that doesn't mean that I think any other "race" is worth less or that white people somehow should be masters of others (I hate those people who think that). I think everyone should be allowed to feel pride for their own group, as a white person though it seems we should feel ashamed of who we are.

No racism intended.
 

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im surprised this thread is still open... just because of some people who will remain nameless... but im glad it is. MOST of us are just commenting on it fairly civilly which is good.



ATP said:
I think everyone should be allowed to feel pride for their own group, as a white person though it seems we should feel ashamed of who we are.

No racism intended.

great point. the end of your post says a lot though. even here on an anonymous forum online, you have been so conditioned with white guilt through your life that you have to add the qualifier "no racism intended" when you didnt say anything remotely racist. it sucks. yea yea yea... white people dont get harassed by police.. whatever.

where's my white history month? where's my national association for the advancement of white people? where's my united caucasian scholarship fund?

oh that's right. no one even brings up the idea because we fear the word "racist" like we fear the fvcking black plague.

i'm not saying that some serious sh1t hasn't gone down in the past. but lets look at it realistically... there's so much bending over backwards to NOT appear racist in society that the ripple effects are beginning to end. affirmative action to diversify colleges? yea, that's why we're falling behind in the world. i mean, others have already said most of this stuff.

the thing is that all stereotypes are based on truth. no one just came up with this sh1t out of their ass. you think someone just randomly labeled black people as loud and belligerent one day and it stuck? no. it was from experience. the same way with mexican people not speaking english. or white people being racially intolerant. that all comes from grains of truth. don't try to act like it doesnt.
 

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where's my white history month? where's my national association for the advancement of white people? where's my united caucasian scholarship fund?

Every Month is white history month. Columbus day? Presidents day? Independence day? In the end of the day, history is history, no matter the color, but you can't say that most of the american history is centered around white men. Usually Majorities don't get all the things you mentioned because they have been getting it all along. That would be like me starting a heterosexual rights group. Total waste of time. I'm not saying I agree with it, but this would be my guess at the reasoning behind it

oh that's right. no one even brings up the idea because we fear the word "racist" like we fear the fvcking black plague.

not really fear, but you have to remember why these things were started in the first place. The NAACP was started way back when when black were considered 3rd class citizens as a whole. You cannot tell me that they wouldn't need some sort of group to stand up for their rights and aid in there advancement as a people.
i'm not saying that some serious sh1t hasn't gone down in the past. but lets look at it realistically... there's so much bending over backwards to NOT appear racist in society that the ripple effects are beginning to end. affirmative action to diversify colleges? yea, that's why we're falling behind in the world. i mean, others have already said most of this stuff.
I agree that this whole racism sh1t is waaaay overblown. I get just as annoyed with black people pulling the race card as much as anyone. But the sad truth is that white people also do the same thing. This one white guy at my Job got all "offended" when a manager called me black. I'm like, do you think I don't know that I am black? people need to get over themselves. This whole race issue won't die though until we can actually face it head on. Tippin around it and acting like it doesn't exist only makes it worse.

the thing is that all stereotypes are based on truth. no one just came up with this sh1t out of their ass. you think someone just randomly labeled black people as loud and belligerent one day and it stuck? no. it was from experience. the same way with mexican people not speaking english. or white people being racially intolerant. that all comes from grains of truth. don't try to act like it doesnt.
This is also true. The sad part being that a lot of people purposely try to play into these stereotypes
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speakeasy, the white guy may be insane, but he clearly moved away to avoid the fight. Yes, he talked trash in retaliation, but moving away and avoiding physical contact is about as clear-cut as you get. At its core, it's one man moving away to avoid conflict, and another escalating.

And please don't use that ho's account of events as evidence of anything. Her explanation that was posted earlier was so ridiculously self serving, she has literally no credibility.
I already said that I supported the EBM and think the younger guy deserved it. What i'm saying though is that if you google for more info about the epic beard man, you'll find out that he is kind of a troublemaker. It's sounding to me like the black dude was minding his business, until EBM made the comment about shining his shoes and that started the whole thing. If he hadn't made that racist comment, none of this would've happened. Once again, I agree that the black dude should've left it alone when EBM went up to the front, but neither party was completely innocent. I know people want to see this as a case of some ghetto thug of a black dude that was just f*cking with a random white guy on the bus, but it's not appearing as though that was the case. When the police report is released with other passengers accounts of what happened leading into it, we'll have the evidence of who really started it. It's clear from the video that there was sh*t going on prior.

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I really don't get all this hate. Sure I think that white people are very oppressed in the world today. As white people we are not allowed to have any group that promotes white people like every other "race" have. We are taught that white people are bad as we grow up. We are taught that we should have guilt because our ancestors did some bad things. I really don't get why other "races" are allowed to promote their own race, their races history etc while a white person doing the same would be percieved as a racist.
If you believe whites are "oppressed", you either clinically insane or you live in the twilight zone. Either way, you clearly don't know what the word oppression means. I'm not trying to be a d*ck dude, but sincerely, you have a lot to learn and I'm not about to lecture about it here. Go read some Tim Wise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ONuBBmRRpM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ8xQPdjJfM
 
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I already said that I supported the EBM and think the younger guy deserved it. What i'm saying though is that if you google for more info about the epic beard man, you'll find out that he is kind of a troublemaker. It's sounding to me like the black dude was minding his business, until EBM made the comment about shining his shoes and that started the whole thing. If he hadn't made that racist comment, none of this would've happened. Once again, I agree that the black dude should've left it alone when EBM went up to the front, but neither party was completely innocent. I know people want to see this as a case of some ghetto thug of a black dude that was just f*cking with a random white guy on the bus, but it's not appearing as though that was the case. When the police report is released with other passengers accounts of what happened leading into it, we'll have the evidence of who really started it. It's clear from the video that there was sh*t going on prior.
What are you basing that on?

Here is the transcript:


Black man: …AC Transit
Bruso: Let’s get back to business. How much you charge me for a spit-shine?
Black man: what?
Bruso: How much you charge me for my Stacy Adams? I’m going to a funeral on Friday…You said you… [note: Stacy Adams are a brand of shoe.]
Black man: Did you get what I said just now?
Bruso: Yes
Black man: Why a brother gotta spit-shine your shoes?
Bruso: You offered!
Black man: I didn’t offer you ****.
Bruso: What’d you just say when you walked by me?
Black man: I said why, why a ****in’ brother gotta spit-shine your shoes?
Bruso: You don’t have to!
Black man: Why a white man can’t spit-shine –
Bruso: [interrupting] – It could be a Chinaman! It don’t matter!
Black man: Look dude…
Bruso: I ain’t prejudice! What? You think I’m prejudice!



Black man: [pointing toward front of bus] Take your ass back up there and get the **** out my face right now.
Bruso: Why you being so hostile, man?
Black man: ‘Cause. I’m pissed off.
Bruso: Well its better to be pissed off than pissed on.

... from there it's nonsense.

Yes, something happened prior, but according to WHAT WE KNOW FOR SURE, what suggests that Beardo started it?
 

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Every Month is white history month. Columbus day? Presidents day? Independence day? In the end of the day, history is history, no matter the color, but you can't say that most of the american history is centered around white men. Usually Majorities don't get all the things you mentioned because they have been getting it all along. That would be like me starting a heterosexual rights group. Total waste of time. I'm not saying I agree with it, but this would be my guess at the reasoning behind it

i'm not saying at all that american history isnt centered around white men. as you said though, history is history. no matter how much the pc police may want to, they cant go through and color in all the textbook pictures of the white founding fathers and make em look black. but whatever, i just think that there's no reason why we cant say every month is AMERICAN history month? why does ANY ONE race need their own month? fair is fair. history is history. if black people want more holidays named after them, generate more great men and women who choose dates outside the month of february to do their good deeds. and yea, i know there's no good reasoning behind the other things. it just is. and we're all supposed to swallow it over and over and say "mmm" with a big smile on our faces. all i want is fairness. equality. as far as im concerned NO ONE is entitled to money from ANYONE based on race. give it to the ones most deserving, no matter what the race. i graduated hs with a perfect gpa at a 5A suburban accredited school and am paying out of my ass to go to a decent college. but im also a middle class white kid.



not really fear, but you have to remember why these things were started in the first place. The NAACP was started way back when when black were considered 3rd class citizens as a whole. You cannot tell me that they wouldn't need some sort of group to stand up for their rights and aid in there advancement as a people.

oh it's most definitely fear. trust me. getting legitimately called racist is to be a social pariah for a length of time. and true, the naacp WAS necessary when it was started. but black people have now officially had 150 years since slavery was abolished. ive never met anyone 150 years old. so none of the slaves or slaveowners are left. id say that we all start on a reasonably level playing field. look at the asian population. 65 years ago, we put them in internment camps. now, as a population, they have the highest rate of all racial groups of college educated individuals. coincidence? i dont think so. either way, the naacp has become an outdated, obsolete, unnecessary organization that reminds everyone about the differences between blacks and everyone else. not helpful.


I agree that this whole racism sh1t is waaaay overblown. I get just as annoyed with black people pulling the race card as much as anyone. But the sad truth is that white people also do the same thing. This one white guy at my Job got all "offended" when a manager called me black. I'm like, do you think I don't know that I am black? people need to get over themselves. This whole race issue won't die though until we can actually face it head on. Tippin around it and acting like it doesn't exist only makes it worse.

lol @ the white guy. these politically correct retards think they're doing everyone an excellent public service by coming to the rescue when someone uses the word black. please. like you said, you're aware of what race you are. that's hardwired into us. you're exactly right. we just need to accept that it's there and that it happens. it's really not that big of a deal.


This is also true. The sad part being that a lot of people purposely try to play into these stereotypes

i dont think anyone tries to fit into the stereotypes just for the sake of doing it. lets take the "ghetto thug hardass" persona as an example. this stereotype is perpetuated because these people are shown to be successful over and over. they achieve material wealth and rap about that wealth, as well as the women, drugs, and good times that come with it. and as the saying goes, people follow the money (and pvssy).
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i'm not saying at all that american history isnt centered around white men. as you said though, history is history. no matter how much the pc police may want to, they cant go through and color in all the textbook pictures of the white founding fathers and make em look black. but whatever, i just think that there's no reason why we cant say every month is AMERICAN history month? why does ANY ONE race need their own month? fair is fair. history is history. if black people want more holidays named after them, generate more great men and women who choose dates outside the month of february to do their good deeds. and yea, i know there's no good reasoning behind the other things. it just is. and we're all supposed to swallow it over and over and say "mmm" with a big smile on our faces. all i want is fairness. equality. as far as im concerned NO ONE is entitled to money from ANYONE based on race. give it to the ones most deserving, no matter what the race. i graduated hs with a perfect gpa at a 5A suburban accredited school and am paying out of my ass to go to a decent college. but im also a middle class white kid.
Black people don't celebrate black history month anymore than they celebrate groundhog day. I don't know why people make a big deal out of this. What actually happens during black history month anyway? Not a damn thing. The idea is stupid and patronizing and really more of a legacy from an older time. Now if black people were given the month off with pay for black history month, I'd say bring it on, :D but really, it's just a token gesture. I don't think it means much to anyone, black or white.


oh it's most definitely fear. trust me. getting legitimately called racist is to be a social pariah for a length of time. and true, the naacp WAS necessary when it was started. but black people have now officially had 150 years since slavery was abolished. ive never met anyone 150 years old. so none of the slaves or slaveowners are left. id say that we all start on a reasonably level playing field. look at the asian population. 65 years ago, we put them in internment camps. now, as a population, they have the highest rate of all racial groups of college educated individuals. coincidence? i dont think so. either way, the naacp has become an outdated, obsolete, unnecessary organization that reminds everyone about the differences between blacks and everyone else. not helpful.
Number one, it's not about slavery. Racism didn't end with slavery. For many black guys in this forum, this sh*t isn't ancient history. Many of our parents didn't have basic rights. Our grandparents who are still alive remember not even being allowed to vote. So it's not exactly some distant memory. Remember it's was only several decades ago that blacks got basic rights. So saying slavery ended 150 years ago is not relevant. Now I'm not here by any means saying all black problems are the fault of whites. But by no means did racism just disappear because slavery ended. Also, you mentioned Asians, it wasn't all Asians, it was just Japanese and I'm not even sure it was even ALL of them. And on top of that, let's not forget that the Japanese that were interned ended up getting reparations for it, something that never happened for black slaves, even though it was promised that the slaves would be granted land for payment. I agree that the NAACP is outmoded.


i dont think anyone tries to fit into the stereotypes just for the sake of doing it. lets take the "ghetto thug hardass" persona as an example. this stereotype is perpetuated because these people are shown to be successful over and over. they achieve material wealth and rap about that wealth, as well as the women, drugs, and good times that come with it. and as the saying goes, people follow the money (and pvssy).
Most these "thugs" rapping aren't even thugs. It's just an image. About as fake as Milli Vanilli. They talk about all this gangsta stuff they do, yet they live in the suburbs. You think these gangsta making all this money are really living in the projects. It's an image that sells, and they're cashing in on it. People like to hear it, black people and white people. Most rap is bought by whites in fact. And these rappers tour Europe, Japan and all these places and worshiped like gods. People think this image is the real thing, but it's all an act when it comes down to it. Someone like Snoop Dogg may have been in a gang when he was young, but dude is now more likely to be partying with the wealthy while maintaining the "gangsta" image just to have street cred.
 

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