6 Dates, No Sex - Should I be worried?

[CaConfused]

^^^ That's gold, Marmel.

Harry Wilmington says stop gaming girls on the holidays (there's a whole thread here somewhere if you care to look it up) and he's right.
Women on holidays have a dozen other things on their minds apart from entertaining some dude.
They're with family or doing fun stuff and replying to your texts is very low on her priority list. I'd just cool it until she gets back.
If you must contact her, keep it light and short.
Maybe just send her a pic of your lamest present with a funny message. And don't expect a reply. Don't even ask her a question, just send it and be done.
It shows you're thinking of her but you're not showing neediness or desperation.

As for taking her to the airport. Bad move. Even worse because you haven't fvcked her. She's withholding sex and yet you keep jumping through her hoops. It's every woman's dream!!!
Don't be too eager to please and never be afraid of offending a woman. If she dumped you for not taking her to the airport, that's good because you just weeded out another bytch.

Has she given you a reason for not wanting sex? And finally, a woman who is passionately interested in you won't confuse you.

Did not give a reason. In the beginning, she told me about how she only dates nice guys and that her long term relationships have been through knowing the guy for awhile first - because she is not physically attracted to people - she told me a term for it (she's a therapist, LOL.)

At first it was slow to even get makeouts.. it has been very different for me because I always get girls into bed by date 3.

With her:

dates 1-2, just short kisses
dates 3-5, handholding, short makeouts
date 6 - came over to my place, top off sucking nipples, etc, long, long makeouts instigated by both. heavy crotch petting, just didn't let my hand on her ****.
AIRPORT PICKUP for XMAS - Dec 22
And we are here.

 

[CaConfused]

Don't respond to that picture text. Go ghost on her a$$.

Making a decision. Why do you suggest ghosting?

 

[TheGambino]

Best you can do my man is keep things light and playful, don't act all weird coz of the situation, she will notice.

When she reaches out to you when shes back from holidays arrange another date. At this date you escalate. Kino her kiss her and tease. Try to loosen her up and create escalation to sex.

If she refuses don't act desperate or affected just quit escalating, keep kissing her, enjoy your date and end it. Withdraw your attention after the date and focus on other women and don't contact her anymore. She will eventually feel what's up and know that your loosing interest coz of her holding off sex.

That will make her chase you I promise, if not move on from there.

 

[CaConfused]

Best you can do my man is keep things light and playful, don't act all weird coz of the situation, she will notice.

When she reaches out to you when shes back from holidays arrange another date. At this date you escalate. Kino her kiss her and tease. Try to loosen her up and create escalation to sex.

If she refuses don't act desperate or affected just quit escalating, keep kissing her, enjoy your date and end it. Withdraw your attention after the date and focus on other women and don't contact her anymore. She will eventually feel what's up and know that your loosing interest coz of her holding off sex.

That will make her chase you I promise, if not move on from there.

Cool Gambino. So when you say don't act weird, you mean to say go ahead and text her back? I went ahead and just replied "LOL, creepy" (it was a really creepy ornament she sent me a pic of) and then added a pic of super gay looking one on my parent's tree - Does that work?

Also - we kinda already have the next date arranged - my new year's eve party. Might be hard to sex her up at that. Hm

 

[TheGambino]

It's your decision wheter to text her back or not.

I think it won't harm your chances if you just go ghost on texts this holiday. It shows your busy and not thinking about her all day.

If you decide to text her do it in a short and sweet way and quit texting from there, doesn't matter when in my opinion 4-10hours later is fine. Let her miss you and wonder about you by not texting at all after that one.

Let her reach out to you when she comes back from holidays. You arrange another date, and from there like I said previousley escalate. If she refuses, end the date without problems or mood changes, act like nothing happened.

After the date withdraw your attention and ignore her a bit, don't show her your affected but be indifferent about her. She will catch up on that and decide if she's going to open up 100% to you and turn it up to sex.

You should be a man and a professional in escalating like a real Don Juan, do it in the way that she can't resist it bro.

If she still 'isn't ready for it' withdraw your attention, and focus on other women, tbh you should focus on other women anytime so she can feel that you have a foot out of the door and that she has to work to keep you.

 

[CaConfused]

It's your decision wheter to text her back or not.

I think it won't harm your chances if you just go ghost on texts this holiday. It shows your busy and not thinking about her all day.

If you decide to text her do it in a short and sweet way and quit texting from there, doesn't matter when in my opinion 4-10hours later is fine. Let her miss you and wonder about you by not texting at all after that one.

Let her reach out to you when she comes back from holidays. You arrange another date, and from there like I said previousley escalate. If she refuses, end the date without problems or mood changes, act like nothing happened and give her the best date ever.

After the date withdraw your attention and ignore her a bit, don't show her your affected but be indifferent about her. She will catch up on that and decide if she's going to open up 100% to you and turn it up to sex.

You should be a man and a professional in escalating like a real Don Juan, do it in the way that she can't resist it bro.

If she still 'isn't ready for it' withdraw your attention, and focus on other women, tbh you should focus on other women anytime so she can feel that you have a foot out of the door and that she has to work to keep you.

This makes sense to me, thanks.

I sent the "LOL, creepy text", commenting on that picture, along with an amusing image of an ornament, like she did. And now I'll bow out for awhile.

We have that New Year's Eve party 'date'. I won't even bring it up. I'll wait for her to ask me for info.

Then I'll have her over. I'll try to do what's appropriate (unfortunately, I can't shag her right in the middle of the party.)..

Wait for her to reach out again, arrange another date and go full bore if the night before logistically could not let it happen.

 

[TheGambino]

This makes sense to me, thanks.

I sent the "LOL, creepy text", commenting on that picture, along with an amusing image of an ornament, like she did. And now I'll bow out for awhile.

We have that New Year's Eve party 'date'. I won't even bring it up. I'll wait for her to ask me for info.

Then I'll have her over. I'll try to do what's appropriate (unfortunately, I can't shag her right in the middle of the party.)..

Wait for her to reach out again, arrange another date and go full bore if the night before logistically could not let it happen.

Sounds good Dont text her at all anymore and wait for her to ask for the date info and get together. Just remember you have to escalate to sex by now. If you do it right, she won't refuse you. Make her begg for it instead while kissing her.

If she refuses it the next time you 2 are in a car/hotel/your room whatever just act like nothing happened and withdraw attention. Focus on other women.

 

[CaConfused]

Cool man, I'll give you updates. She doesn't get back into town until Dec 30, so I don't expect much else.

If she texts me over holidays for anything, should I ignore it until she asks for NYE party info?

 

[TheGambino]

No personally I wouldn't ignore it but I wouldn't encourage her to text more stuff aswell.

So try to end it you know. Basically 'I'm having great days too, very busy doing blabla enjoy your days', don't mention future date plans or plans to get together and stop texting from there, you ended it. When she asks about the NYE party info you give her the details and text her back.

Imagine if you've had multiple girls blowing up your phone, and a busy life enjoying the holidays would you try to figure out everytime what to text to her or send her funny stuff while shes away, no right?

I'm a worse texter btw so I just try to limit it always.

 

[Pimp-sicle]

There's some horrible advice in this thread, but also some very good advice.

CaConfused, your wayyyyyyy too invested in this girl, you have only been on 6 dates, are you meeting other women? Why are you on the hamster wheel running so hard to catch a girl you barely know.

Secondly, lots a girls hold out for various reasons, but one reason that no one has mentioned is when you, the man don't do enough to get her horny. Heavy make out and getting her top off is a good start, going straight for her ( * )( * ) and pants without paying attention to the rest of her body and using push-pull is a recipe for a dry snatch.

You shouldn't have responded to her last text; it didn't require a response. You need to take some control back in this situation because right now your chasing hard in your mind & this desperate behavior will start to show its ugly face through your body language and interactions because its clearly on your mind.

Women don't respond to words; they respond to actions. So pull back, take longer to respond than you did before, sometimes don't respond at all if its a pointless text; let her feel YOU and YOUR interest going down.

Too many men tend to chase and hoop jump harder when they sense the women losing interest or pulling back:

Meet disinterest or low interest with MORE disinterest on your part.

Wait for her to text you when she gets back in town and then have fun at your NYE party, mingle with everyone there; be the life of the party, your the host after all.

Make sure not to ignore her. She will sense you've pulled back and are getting attention from other girls and she will use the only power she knows how to; her box.










PIMP

 

[VladPatton]

Just pull back attention. You ain't gettin whatchu want, man. Why proceed any further? There are no magic bullets here. You went on a few dates with her, she's not at the temperature you want her to be, her texting sux ballz, low passion, I say it's time to fade to black. If her interested is piqued by it, great, if not, c'est la vie. Time to play with a more funner girl. That's it and that's all.

 

[El Suave]

Try this move that I do when escalating. I put their hand in MY pants, not the other way around. It's a little safer for them and they get way turned on. It changed the minds of a few women actually.
Also, it depends on the women, setting, attraction. With most I tell them to get naked while I'm getting undressed.
Remember, you're dealing with a 30 year old here, not with some shy 18 year old. Be a little bold.

 

[Blinkers]

I would be rather perplexed if there had been no sexual interaction whatsoever by date 6. I have gone 4 dates before without penetrative sex, but on the 3rd we done practically everything else and that was OK.
I think if she hasn’t familiarised with your trouser snake one way or another by the 3rd date then you have to weigh it up yourself as we do not know her.

Could I hold on for 6 dates – If she was good company, intelligent, ladylike, interesting and funny (that narrows the pool more than you may think) I think I could, possibly; err no actually I couldn’t. Sorry bro.

However if you insist to pursue this and prove us all wrong make sure you stop the favours, be less available, get seen with other women and if she wants a date, invite her along with some of your buddies to the pool hall, treat her like any other friend, with indifference. Then repeat until you find someone else or she rapes you…

 

[Greasy Pig]

And do what El Suave said. Put her hand on your dyck and let her feel how hard she's making you.
He'll I've even undone my fly and whipped the beast out. If you don't get laid, at least you might get a gobbie or a wristy.
Take the lead and lead her to where you want to go.

 

[Desdinova]

Red Flags:

#1) You met her online.
#2) Six dates and no sex

On the plus side...

Last date, I finally got to second base. Passionate kissing, top off. She kept me from reaching down her pants...

You have been progressing with her but gave up once you hit the ASD. From the sound of it, you need to be more flirty and sexual if you actually want to get laid.

The best place to be with *any* woman is to have the control over the sex. YOU tell her when she can have it and when she can't. Unfortunately, it seems you've already established the fact that she is the one who's in control. The only way to counter-act this is to make it appear that you could care less if you get laid, but continue to be flirty and sexual. THAT is the key to getting laid.

 

[Maximus Rex]

Seize the Day, My Dude

I really don't text with her that much.She does way more texting. The **** that bothers me about it is that 1) She takes forever to respond and 2) Her response to "LOL, wow, someone has been a naughty girl." was 36 hours later... a picture of blushing Christmas ornament. Clever. But also it feels like she didn't want to continue that convo doesn't it?

Another example of why y'all need to stop texting chicks. Call her punk a$$ and engage in actual phone conversations. If you have her in actual conversation, you'll have 100% of her attention, as opposed to being one of the four to five muthaf*ckas she's simultaneously "conversatin'" with via text.

QUESTION - How should I respond to that text? It's been 3 hours.. Thought about just "LOL" ..or should I just not respond?

Unless it's a text pertaining to the logistics of a date, stop texting chicks.

SECOND QUESTION - I asked her to come to my New Year's party on the 6th date. She paused and didn't answer immediately. I asked about the pause and she responded "I just need to thnk about what I'll do about my lesbian friends - they might not want to come since there's no lesbos at your party...Why do you need to know now? Do you have other girls lined up?" I responded "Yes, absolutely. That's why I need to know" -- with a grin obviously. The next day she told me she's definitely coming with her friends. What do I do about that? So many mixed signals, right?

This b*tch is disrespecting the game and you. You f&cked up inviting new chicks, (especially ones that you haven't smashed to your party. Anyway, that damage is done. What you do is not contact this broad between now and New Year's Eve. You extended you invitation and she knows that's been invited. If she doesn't show, on to next one. If she does show up, freeze her a$$ out. You need to be the center of attention at this thing and most importantly this b*tch needs to see that more cooperative chick that are hotter than her are choosin. Good luck.

 

[Solomon]

I'll break it down in basketball terms

It's the 4th Quarter with 1:47 seconds left and OP is down by 13 points, unless he pulls a "Tracy Mcgrady" here this game is already over

 

[CaConfused]

I'll break it down in basketball terms

It's the 4th Quarter with 1:47 seconds left and OP is down by 13 points, unless he pulls a "Tracy Mcgrady" here this game is already over

LOL. Thanks dude.

The putting her hand on my snake move.. I don't know why I didn't use this move. I've done it a thousand times.. I actually got laid with it with a different girl just a week ago!

I wish I had a normal date lined up, I would use this immediately.

The party is my place. Not a ton of single girls there, but a few. But I'll be the focus. Check.

This girl is amazing company - that's why I care despite having 3 spinning plates (I'm getting laid tonight, in fact.)

Here's where we're at now. After I texted her back the quick comment at 6pm, she texted me back with a LOL cute and a second text with witty comment at 2pm today. I am now in ignore mode as everyone here said.

Awesome stuff guys and thanks for making me laugh too. Time to get laid tonight - this chick works at Victoria Secret!

 

[abe0]

LOL. Thanks dude.

The putting her hand on my snake move.. I don't know why I didn't use this move. I've done it a thousand times.. I actually got laid with it with a different girl just a week ago!

I wish I had a normal date lined up, I would use this immediately.

The party is my place. Not a ton of single girls there, but a few. But I'll be the focus. Check.

This girl is amazing company - that's why I care despite having 3 spinning plates (I'm getting laid tonight, in fact.)

Here's where we're at now. After I texted her back the quick comment at 6pm, she texted me back with a LOL cute and a second text with witty comment at 2pm today. I am now in ignore mode as everyone here said.

Awesome stuff guys and thanks for making me laugh too. Time to get laid tonight - this chick works at Victoria Secret!

If you are getting laid soooo much...I do not see what your so hung up on this one chick. Most guys who is getting as much action as you claim you are would have figured this out way before and not bothered chasing this broad like a dog sniffing another dogs butt. IMHO...Abe

 

[CaConfused]

If you are getting laid soooo much...I do not see what your so hung up on this one chick. Most guys who is getting as much action as you claim you are would have figured this out way before and not bothered chasing this broad like a dog sniffing another dogs butt. IMHO...Abe

It's because she's the hottest and most intelligent of the ones I'm seeing.