"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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4 gals! All friends!

PeterCrouch

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Ok guys, got myself into a situation!

Met this gal we will call (L), shes not hot, i wouldnt shag her and im not intrested in her but im pretty certain (99%) that shes intrested in more than just friends but she is like a real good friend to me!

L has introduced me into 3 other gals, all hot! all shagable! and i want all of them! but theres a few problems! of course there all friends but let me tell you about them a lil

M - Shes great, really is cool, so intrested in her, more than just a shag! want possible relationship with her because shes funny/cool/pretty! When i met her she had a bf but she broke up with him now after chatting to her more i think i could get this gal! but i want more than just shagging her!

L2 - Shes so flirty and it makes her kinda hot, she knows how to turn guys on and etc and i so just wanna shag her and i think i could, infact im pretty certain i could

G - OK shes pretty cute, shes pretty cool and definatly one that i would shag, she loves the older guy (lost her virginity to someone 7 yrs older) and i want her! most difficult gal to read and to work out weather or not shes intrested and shes the most loyal to L

Problem is there all best friends with L and altho L2 and M dont seem to loyal to the fact that me and L are good friends G is really loyal (she really wants me and L to hook up, even tho ive told her it aint gonna happen)

another problem is M and L2 went out with the same guy (m after l2) and i know m did but my guess is l2 did aswell, they lost there virginity to him! but he treated m bad and broke up with her through a letter (wtf who would do that? sad!) not sure about l2s relationship with him but i know that M doesnt like L2 because "shes a constant reminder of him"

so apart from l2 and m there all best friends, i live quite far away from them but im going to see them all next week, cinema, some food etc! i play it ****y and funny at all times with these gals, and they love it! i know they talk about me but im not sure what they say when im not around!

just wondering what i should do and any advice on any of these gals or the whole situation would be greatful plus any more info needed id be willing to give!

ta for the help x
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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OneArmDeeJay

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another problem is M and L2 went out with the same guy (m after l2) and i know m did but my guess is l2 did aswell, they lost there virginity to him! but he treated m bad and broke up with her through a letter (wtf who would do that? sad!) not sure about l2s relationship with him but i know that M doesnt like L2 because "shes a constant reminder of him"
1. For someone you just met you sure do know a lot about their past relationships.
2. What does this have to do anything about you hooking up with them? Who Cares?

Man there is so much to be said but I'm going to cut it short and let someone else do the rest.

From what I read you need to really get your head straight and think about,

1. Out of the three ladies whom do you really want to hook up with? Because I don’t see how you’re going to date them all since their all-tight friends. The whole situation would seem messy.
2. The drama it’s going to bring.
3. Possibly the friendship you have with L

So if you want to hook up with them you’re going to have to start acting like a Man and a DJ. From this post it sounds like a HS girl caught up in all this drama. The post should have said something like "Met 3 hot girls through a friend and I want to know how to get them."

Anyways, just don't get sucked into the drama, be a man, be C/F, use kino, get their numbers, and don't hesitate to make a move. My guess you’re only going to get (if your lucky) hooked up with one of these girls, so if an opportunity comes up with one take it. Like you said all three are hot and you wouldn't mind getting with any of them so it shouldn't matter who you take.
 

izza

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This sounds like a verbal math problem from high school...

so if L has a jealousy rate of 1 point for every three shags of M, and a jealousy limit of 10 before she starts ragging on me, how many shags of M will it take to cause L to go over the limit?

Seriously though, getting into a tight circle like that is not easy but it's still possible. You have to make up your mind, single out one and go for her. Remember that by singling out you basically have to take a risk - you can only choose one to go after in any one situation. Just choose the one you're the most interested in, think of a way to get her away from the others (if they are as in to you as you say, I'm sure she'll like it).

Tough situation unless you have the help of L, think about trying to get her on your side? Anyway, I really don't know - I've never succeeded at the friend snatch game.

Good luck cracking that math problem,

Izza
 

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PeterCrouch, I look forward to your "she blinked at me but I think she winked, what does this mean" posts...everyday.

Oh joy



:rolleyes:
 

MR_PERFECT

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This mythic thing among women called friendship is just that, a myth. You know all 4 women reasonably well, so what you need to figure out now is which one has the most interest in you. You date the one with the most interest, but try to do things where the friends will be around.

Here's the tricky part: when you are all out, you need to flirt with the others, but it has to be subtle, where no one would pay attention. You need to do things like light touching; make sure to try to hold eye contact when possible; when you're in a club or a place where the music is to loud, act like you can't hear her and have her talk directly into your ear, but make sure your face is pressed against hers. You have to build on the flirtations.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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DonJuanMonk

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Concentrate on the girl that is probably easier or most likely to date you. Just be friends with the other girls and don't ever think about trying to score with them.
 
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