4/10 Nerdy Asian girl: "I'd rather be a temporary fleshlight to a 10/10 man than a housekeeper to a 5/10"

[HaleyBaron]

You see the difference in tune and tone?

I say " the solution is somewhere in the middle". Im also able to critically think for myself, thus I realise that mass immigration is a bad thing just like mass shootings...You say shyte like " feck you Gamisch you are brainwashed and the immigrants will rape your women!!!!!!". I say my life is peaceful as I never had to be afraid of getting shot( facts). You; no Gamisch you should be afraid ,your life aint peaceful!!"( like whut???) . You think you can go John Wick one day, not realising that if everyone carries a gun its equally dangerous as nobody having one!. Women getting graped in the US as well.

I'm shook because AGAIN there's a massive shooting in a first world country. You be like " yeah but its my right to carry a machine guns!!!!!" Meanwhile you haven't said ANYTHING sympathetic towards the victims!

Long story short; I'm trying to have a constructive discussion while telling you that there's definitely another way to go about things. You on the other live in a scarcity mindset ,where you are afraid of thing you actually create...

And before you get your panties in a wad again, breathe and read what I'm trying to say; its not an easy conversation to have, but allowing every idiot and his brother to have easy access to heavy guns isn't it neither. The MIDDLE. The solution is something that takes time ,discussion, broader point of view, shsring experiences ect.

One can admit that guns are problem while simultaneously being aware that self protection is also important... its not difficult to see this is an chicken / egg dillema. Will less guns mean less shootings or will it mean more crime? What do you think?

Let's agree to disagree..I dont have to worry that an angry incel shoots up the club and I'm glad I don't. You dont care and shrug it off when it happens. That's one of the many CULTURAL differences between us.

The solution doesn't take time. It's simple. Allow guns for everyone. The only thing I would disallow guns from are criminals and immigrants. Two groups I want out of any country, mines especially.

Guns are not the problem. Pirates raided harbors and ships with cannon and swords. Vikings raided villages with sword and fire. Someone who wants to kill and plunder will use whatever weapon he wants. Which is why you still get rapes and stabbings despite a gunless society.

I've had this conversation with anti-gun people like yourself long enough to know it has nothing to do with guns, and everything to do with people like yourself that are soft hearted and feminine in how you deal with real world things. Even your cree that you're at peace is a childlike mentality. Fooling yourself that there is nothing bad on the horizon is the usual liberal mindset that perpetrates all of the west, especially in Europe. You have zero capable points against guns except that you're scared of them. Cause you are. Just admit it.

 

[Bigpapa]

In places like Europe, Eastern Europe specifically, men can go have sex with a hot woman for $50 a pop. I've talked with plenty of men there.

I think the timeline for those stories is maybe the 90s maybe early 2000s, when 50 dollars meant something even in US

 

[HaleyBaron]

I think the timeline for those stories is maybe the 90s maybe early 2000s, when 50 dollars meant something even in US

The story was recent. The prices fluctuate depending on place and time. I heard as low as $50 and as high as $150.

 

[Bigpapa]

The story was recent. The prices fluctuate depending on place and time. I heard as low as $50 and as high as $150.

I live in Europe and not even escorts you can get anymore for less than 100 euro for a bj, not even in the poorest country here. Maybe if you go to these roadside h00kers, but they look so bad that I think you have to be with mental problems to pay them to do anything

not to mention that a dinner in a nice place is 100 euros for 2 persons. In a very nice place goes towards 200 euros

or that a long drink is like 10-15 euros

really doubt that you can find a girl that looks at least decent ( escort or not ) to even do a bj for 50-150 dollars

what most people say are more or less fisherman tales

if I were you or read this, I would take with a pinch of salt these the grass is greener in X or Y place

 

[HaleyBaron]

I live in Europe and not even escorts you can get anymore for less than 100 euro for a bj, not even in the poorest country here. Maybe if you go to these roadside h00kers, but they look so bad that I think you have to be with mental problems to pay them to do anything

not to mention that a dinner in a nice place is 100 euros for 2 persons. In a very nice place goes towards 200 euros

or that a long drink is like 10-15 euros

really doubt that you can find a girl that looks at least decent ( escort or not ) to even do a bj for 50-150 dollars

what most people say are more or less fisherman tales

if I were you or read this, I would take with a pinch of salt these the grass is greener in X or Y place

The friend I am talking about lives in prague and has hooker friends. I believe him.

 

[Solomon]

Most men will take the most convenient and best attractive option for pure sex. Your parameters are off.

In casual sex, men go after women who shoot above his wife, which is not hard unless she is one of the uncommon few that keeps fit and remains feminine. She doesn't need to be any hotter. Just better in many traits and not nagging. Realistic, hot women are not good bootycalls, and men inherently know this. Hot women require a price. Now granted, this is speaking from the US pov. In places like Europe, Eastern Europe specifically, men can go have sex with a hot woman for $50 a pop. I've talked with plenty of men there. And they told me eventually, you get tired of it and rather have an average enough woman that who will **** you for free. There is also a sense of being a man being able to **** women without having to pay money.

Summary: your definition of men's preference for hot women for bootycalls is missing other parameters.

You're moving the goalposts. The original question was whether most men would prefer a hot woman as a bootycall or settle for an average one when both options exist. You shifted it into married men cheating on their wives. That is a different topic. But I'll bite. I also know men who cheated on their wives through dating apps with women who were less attractive than their wives. Convenience and availability still matter, yet that does not erase the preference.


Most men will take the most convenient attractive option available for pure sex. That part is correct. Convenience does not cancel the ranking. When a hotter woman is realistically available with similar or acceptable logistics, the large majority of men choose her. The "best attractive option" is still ranked by attractiveness. Men do not treat a 5 and a 9 as equal just because both are convenient.
The claim that men only need a woman who is slightly better than their wife and non-nagging misses the point. Casual sex has lower standards than marriage, but it still has a preference hierarchy. Most men would rather rail a hotter woman than an average one if the effort is comparable. "Better in many traits and not nagging" is describing a good affair partner, not disproving that hotter is preferred when it is on the table.


Hot women do require more effort or resources on average. That is obvious. It does not mean men stop preferring them. It means many men cannot access them easily, so they take what is available. Preference and realistic outcome are not the same thing. Men who can access hotter women for casual sex usually do.

The Eastern Europe paid-sex example is a different market. Paying $50 for a hot woman and eventually preferring free average sex shows that cost and novelty matter. It does not prove men would reject a free hot woman in favor of a free average one. Most men in that position still prefer the hotter free option when it appears. The pride in not paying is real, but again it does not rewrite the attractiveness ranking.


Your summary says the preference for hot bootycalls is missing parameters. The parameters you added (convenience, cost, nagging, availability) are real. They explain why many men end up with average women. They do not change the fact that when a hotter woman is accessible at similar cost and effort, most men take her.

 

[HaleyBaron]

You're moving the goalposts. The original question was whether most men would prefer a hot woman as a bootycall or settle for an average one when both options exist. You shifted it into married men cheating on their wives. That is a different topic.

No goalposts were moved. The point I made is that most men don't want hot women for bootycalls. Realistically, what they want is an easy lay who doesn't nag. Good looking enough for him. It doesn't have to be hot. Men will see a 6 as a 8 if he wants to get his d*ck wet.

Rest of the post doesn't matter.

 

[Gamisch]

The solution doesn't take time. It's simple. Allow guns for everyone. The only thing I would disallow guns from are criminals and immigrants. Two groups I want out of any country, mines especially.

Guns are not the problem. Pirates raided harbors and ships with cannon and swords. Vikings raided villages with sword and fire. Someone who wants to kill and plunder will use whatever weapon he wants. Which is why you still get rapes and stabbings despite a gunless society.

I've had this conversation with anti-gun people like yourself long enough to know it has nothing to do with guns, and everything to do with people like yourself that are soft hearted and feminine in how you deal with real world things. Even your cree that you're at peace is a childlike mentality. Fooling yourself that there is nothing bad on the horizon is the usual liberal mindset that perpetrates all of the west, especially in Europe. You have zero capable points against guns except that you're scared of them. Cause you are. Just admit it.

This was predictable you know that right? Far right...?

Gaslighting by name calling because you're out of arguments. And out of heart, still ZERO word about victims .

You sound like a simple hillbilly who feels offended because people be like "yo shouldn't we have a conversation about gun violence ?". You go fully Cartman because people try to figure out ways to stop kids from both access to and death by machine guns. You are not capable of saying " damn this is terrible ". You don't give a shyte. Kinda psychopathic don't you think?

Hell yeah I'm scared of guns. A big boy like you ofcourse isn't scared of lunatics walking around with mass murder weapons. Because you are a REAL MAN!

Call me soft hearted ( which I actually am, I wish nothing but the best for everyone) at least my kids get no " mass shootings drills" in high school.

Let's agree to disagree and wait for the next mass shootings somewhere this week shall we?

 

[HaleyBaron]

This was predictable you know that right? Far right...?

Gaslighting by name calling because you're out of arguments. And out of heart, still ZERO word about victims .

You sound like a simple hillbilly who feels offended because people be like "yo shouldn't we have a conversation about gun violence ?". You go fully Cartman because people try to figure out ways to stop kids from both access to and death by machine guns. You are not capable of saying " damn this is terrible ". You don't give a shyte. Kinda psychopathic don't you think?

Hell yeah I'm scared of guns. A big boy like you ofcourse isn't scared of lunatics walking around with mass murder weapons. Because you are a REAL MAN!

Call me soft hearted ( which I actually am, I wish nothing but the best for everyone) at least my kids get no " mass shootings drills" in high school.

Let's agree to disagree and wait for the next mass shootings somewhere this week shall we?

Yawn. I tailed you for what you were from the first anti-gun post, and so far you have rolled through every meme and bullet point of that ideology to a T. I'm generally impressed by indoctrinated you are. I really am. The lack of security, the false security from the absence of guns around you, the submission to the state so you can put your thumb between your lips and enjoy your netflix or whatever you do in your false peace, all so you can say that everything is safe without guns.

Hallelujah.

 

[corrector]

I live in Europe and not even escorts you can get anymore for less than 100 euro for a bj, not even in the poorest country here. Maybe if you go to these roadside h00kers, but they look so bad that I think you have to be with mental problems to pay them to do anything

Have you travelled to Italy before?

 

[Solomon]

No goalposts were moved. The point I made is that most men don't want hot women for bootycalls. Realistically, what they want is an easy lay who doesn't nag. Good looking enough for him. It doesn't have to be hot. Men will see a 6 as a 8 if he wants to get his d*ck wet.

Rest of the post doesn't matter.

I enjoyed the discourse, but clearly you have a lot to learn, young grasshopper. Wish you safe lessons on your journey!

 

[zekko]

I would say she should be careful of what she wishes for.

 

[corrector]

I would say she should be careful of what she wishes for.

The issue is that this is potentially how 4/10 women think about guys and why the dating market is a mess right now and why fertility rates are dropping like a stone. It's no wonder Asian countries like Japan and South Korea are seeing sharp population drops.

Could you imagine any guy even thinking this could be a potential mother of their children after talking like that? It's like a whole generation of women are not cut out to be mothers.

 

[Gamisch]

Yawn. I tailed you for what you were from the first anti-gun post, and so far you have rolled through every meme and bullet point of that ideology to a T. I'm generally impressed by indoctrinated you are. I really am. The lack of security, the false security from the absence of guns around you, the submission to the state so you can put your thumb between your lips and enjoy your netflix or whatever you do in your false peace, all so you can say that everything is safe without guns.

Hallelujah.

RIP to the victims

 

[HaleyBaron]

I enjoyed the discourse, but clearly you have a lot to learn, young grasshopper. Wish you safe lessons on your journey!

You're not that clever.

 

[Gamisch]

Yawn. I tailed you for what you were from the first anti-gun post, and so far you have rolled through every meme and bullet point of that ideology to a T. I'm generally impressed by indoctrinated you are. I really am. The lack of security, the false security from the absence of guns around you, the submission to the state so you can put your thumb between your lips and enjoy your netflix or whatever you do in your false peace, all so you can say that everything is safe without guns.

Hallelujah.

Im indoctrinated because I'm sympathetic towards the victims? Still no word about that. You write entire Bible verses but zero empathy towards the kids that lost their lives due to your sick society and sick 1700 laws( that's not that far away from the origin of the Sharia law ,what you apparently hate with a passion)

You sound extremely frustrated and angry. But its gotta be tough having 3 arguments simultaneously in one thread. Maybe YOU are the problem??

Because of losers like you the rest of the ( first) world looks at the US as the redheaded stepchild. We are all tired of dudes like especially you and gave up hoping it will improve. And I'm pretty sure you are a fat overweight/ obese loser that gets zero attention from women.

Sayonara

 

[corrector]

Yawn. I tailed you for what you were from the first anti-gun post, and so far you have rolled through every meme and bullet point of that ideology to a T. I'm generally impressed by indoctrinated you are. I really am. The lack of security, the false security from the absence of guns around you, the submission to the state so you can put your thumb between your lips and enjoy your netflix or whatever you do in your false peace, all so you can say that everything is safe without guns.

Hallelujah.

Guns certainly make it allot easier to off yourself painlessly. Thank God I don't have one. Imagine a bad financial news turning into your own death sentence.

The point is, guns are a threat to yourself more than it provides safety.

 

[HaleyBaron]

Guns certainly make it allot easier to off yourself painlessly. Thank God I don't have one. Imagine a bad financial news turning into your own death sentence.

The point is, guns are a threat to yourself more than it provides safety.

No they are not. What the hell is wrong with you?

 

[corrector]

No they are not. What the hell is wrong with you?

You can google the stats. 90% of suicide attempts using a gun are successful. That's bad news to someone looking to end their life.
The stats are also high that someone with a FAILED suicide attempt will never attempt to do that again for the remainder of their natural life. Meaning, when people are given the opportunity to rethink what they are doing and change their minds afterwards, they do, and choose not to do that. Guns do not give people that chance. Too quick, too casual, and mistakes happen which makes them a threat to the user.

 

[Gamisch]

You can google the stats. 90% of suicide attempts using a gun are successful. That's bad news to someone looking to end their life.
The stats are also high that someone with a FAILED suicide attempt will never attempt to do that again for the remainder of their natural life. Meaning, when people are given the opportunity to rethink what they are doing and change their minds afterwards, they do, and choose not to do that. Guns do not give people that chance. Too quick, too casual, and mistakes happen which makes them a threat to the user.

In case you didn't notice; this guy has the IQ and EQ of a wet sandwich thats past its expiration date, basically zero.

Embarrassing yet symbolic for how people over there think. He simply doesn't care. No point talking logical to him. Just like..women. cant think logical.