3rd date with a HB9 tomorrow; need to kiss-close! Some questions..

[ASD :)]

Firstly, I am 17 and go to highschool. However, I decided to post it here (Don Juan Discussion), instead of the High School Forums, since it is summer, meaning no school and this thread is not connected with school in almost any way.

For a short introduction, she is a 16-year-old HB9 from my school whom I first started talking to online about a year ago. She is quite inexperienced, though, as she has just lately started going out due to strict parents. Everyone is talking about her (i.e. "she is sooooooo hot") and she gets a lot of attention at the parties. I still think she is mentally less than HB9 as she has not been out too much and is still getting used to it. She definitely has not had many boyfriends.


About me and her - the first date (about 8 months ago) was a complete failure. We just walked around the Old Town and talked for a few hours. I must have seemed really boring to her. I was an AFC and made as much mistakes as possible.

The second date was about 2 months ago. It was better - I was C&F, she seemed to be enjoying it. We went to different cafes, walked around, went to a department store etc. What I hate about that "date", though, is that there was still almost no kino. Very little. We only hugged when we met and parted, I did the Trust Test (twice, since it failed the first time) and some other minor touching.

The next time I saw her was yesterday at my ex-classmates birthday. It was a complete surprise for me that she was there. I arrived quite late and as I knew very many people there, I had a MASSIVE social proof. Everyone was greeting and hugging me and very happy to see me (she was the first to hug me). Even the people I did not know were warmly greeting me. As for the HB9, I never really talked to her at the party - she was ALWAYS surrounded by a lot of AFCs giving her attention. I decided to be different - every time I saw her I just said something C&F and threw in a neg once in a while. Later I started to give her some minor kino too. But it seemed to work.

At some point I told her to find me before she was leaving, because I wanted to tell her something. And she did that (IOI). As she found me I was currently drinking vodka with a lot of people, so I told her to go outside and wait 2 minutes for me After 3-4 minutes I went outside and she was still there (IOI), so as I knew she was going to leave the country for a month on Monday (she is going to some place far away with his family), I told her that we need to see each other on Sunday. She instantly agreed.. "Ohh, great - I have some time on Sunday, too!!".

Sorry, LOL.. the introduction was supposed to be short

Now for the upcoming date. I am going to call her tomorrow morning, telling her to meet me at about 6PM. When we were at the department store on our second date, I suggested we both buy a shirt/blouse for each other some time and exchange those when we next meet. So firstly, I suppose, we would exchange the shirts. I will then take her to my car and tell her we are going ice-skating (I seriously hope she would agree..). I am hoping to kino her as much as possible while ice-skating. After that I would like to go to some other places, less crowded and run some routines (for example the cube). Eventually I would like to take her to some quite private place where I could kiss-close her, but I do not want to take her to my place, because it is far from hers and I do not want to drive her home later as I will have trouble getting the car at the first place. [I have 3 cars in my family: mine is a shitty one - it is a bit broken and DIRTY as hell; my mother's car is a common family car that I do not like and which smells of dogs (I have 2 big dogs and they are driven around in that car); my father's car is a comfortable, luxurious and really clean and nice.. I have driven it a few times and everyone likes it.. but the problem is - I do not have the driver's licence (but I have driven my car for 1,5 years and never got caught and my parents are quite OK with it) and my father will not let me drive it, unless I have a REAL good reason, because it is registered under the company he works for and if I get caught - he is going to have some trouble..] As you see the first two cars are ruled out mainly for being quite dirty and smelly, I will have trouble getting my father's car and I will definitely need a car, because every place I want to go is far from each other (especially the skating-rink). That is bad.

Why I feel such need to kiss-close her tomorrow? I am dating several girls and I am happy with that, but this is nearly the most beautiful girl I have ever seen and making her want me would be such a social proof as every guy I know is admiring her. As she is leaving for a month the day after tomorrow, getting so close and kissing her would make her miss me and think about me all the time, while I date other girls, which I find nice.

Now for the problems/questions:

1) Please suggest some good reasons to tell my father, why I definitely need his car for the night. The problem is that both mine and my mother's cars work as well, but as I said - those svck and are dirty.

2) Where should I take her after skating? I need a pretty private place to eventually kiss-close her. Eating places are quite bad as there would be a table between us. Home would be quite perfect (many reasons why to take her here - dogs, watching a movie etc) if I only had a decent car myself.. DAMN

3) What kind of a shirt/blouse should I get her? Cheap/expensive? Fancy/Funny? I do not even know her size.. well, she is really small.. it is better if get something that does not fit her than something too big, right? As a too big one could insult her.. (good way to neg, but as I said she is mentally not a HB9)

4) Any good kino-routines? Kissing-routines?

5) If I actually fail to get my father's car - any other suggestions where to take her? (I just badly need the car for the skating, since the rink is quite far from the centre of the town)


If someone really made it to the end and managed to help me with some of my questions - many thanks in advance!
Sorry for bad English and such a long post.

ASD

 

[roman]

Borrowing poppa's wheels is important to pulling this off. I dunno your dad personally, but I'm assuming that he can place himself in your shoes: if he was young again and had a date with a beautiful girl, he'd want to roll in a luxury sedan rather a sh1t wagon. Tell him it will be back in one piece by such and such a time.

After the skating, take her back to your place to watch a movie, and make sure it's the two of you alone on the couch watching a movie (no parents or siblings lurking around the corner). Who cares if you have to make the drive back to her house later on, it's worth it no? Your place is the best bet if you wanna isolate for the kiss close. Otherwise you're stuck with the smooch in front of her house as you drop her off at the end of the date.

As for the blouse/shirt trade-off, I dunno if that was such a great idea bro. You shouldn't be buying a girl gifts who's not even your gf. Hell, even if she was your gf it's not always a good idea to give gifts. It looks like you're trying to impress her and comes off as AFC. I'd ditch that idea if I were you.

Good luck with this one, let us know how the date goes bro.

Roman

 

[BOWIE]

First, your post is too long.
Second, if you haven't kiss-closed by the third date and you've come online to find-out how then you need help that is far beyond the scope of anyone on this forum.

Good night and good luck.

 

[Dannyrt34]

Is telling your dad that you got a hot date and need a good car not an option? That's what I'd tell my dad, plus it's one of the most important reasons to need the car, so there's nothing short of that you can say.

And for after the skating, think of a nice outdoor place. Such as a shopping area or something. You can walk around alone with her, find a bench to sit on, perhaps get the kiss there. Even though its alot like the first date, you can always try harder to MAKE it more fun.

I don't shop for girls so you'd know as well as me about the whole blouse thing.

And if you can't get the car, have a sense of humor about it. Don't apologize cause your car sucks, when she gets in it just be like, "How do you like my ride? Look it even got an 8 track!"

 

[ASD :)]

Alright, thank you a lot for those nice replies. I agree - the blouse/shirt thing was a bad idea, but as she has promted repeatedly, she already has something for me. So I will just go to a department store and buy the first funny thing I see. Hell with that.

UPDATE: As I was quite sleepy this afternoon, I thought I really do not want to talk to my father about the car. I do not want to go ice-skating anyway.. So I just talked to the girl and invited her to my place - to walk my dog, watch a movie etc. She agreed to come
So I will take a little nap, learn some routines (any suggestions?), go find a blouse for her and pick her up somewhere. I really hope my father will give me his car for that short time.

Any kino/kissing routines and anything else helpful would be appreciated. Damn.. I do not have much time left and I wanted to learn the cube as well, lol.. Anyway we will see. I will update the topic after she has left


Thanks,
ASD

 

[Hitman10000]

Firstly, I am 17 and go to highschool. However, I decided to post it here (Don Juan Discussion), instead of the High School Forums, since it is summer, meaning no school and this thread is not connected with school in almost any way.

According TO ME that forum is for people under the age of 21 because it pertains to the dating world before they become adults. I have no damn clue why under 21 trolls come into Discussion thinking they know the world.

Now for the problems/questions:

1) Please suggest some good reasons to tell my father, why I definitely need his car for the night. The problem is that both mine and my mother's cars work as well, but as I said - those svck and are dirty.

Renting a car would probably be your best decision if presentation is a must.

2) Where should I take her after skating? I need a pretty private place to eventually kiss-close her. Eating places are quite bad as there would be a table between us. Home would be quite perfect (many reasons why to take her here - dogs, watching a movie etc) if I only had a decent car myself.. DAMN

Go find a dark place, really dark and creepy like those scary moves and make out with her there.

3) What kind of a shirt/blouse should I get her? Cheap/expensive? Fancy/Funny? I do not even know her size.. well, she is really small.. it is better if get something that does not fit her than something too big, right? As a too big one could insult her.. (good way to neg, but as I said she is mentally not a HB9)

Get her a box of chocolates and a gold necklace too.

4) Any good kino-routines? Kissing-routines?

Use the tongue and grab her breasts.

5) If I actually fail to get my father's car - any other suggestions where to take her? (I just badly need the car for the skating, since the rink is quite far from the centre of the town)

Ice Skating is g@y, whoever suggested it in the first place is a homo.

I think you should stop dating her for awhile and reassess your life a bit.