3 Reasons why the average man is struggling today

[H8CourtshipWithAPassion]

well i think more guys than ever before are likely still to be virgins past their mid 20s than like 20 to 30 years ago or more

 

[DreamAgain]

This is America... Create them if you need to

Getting harder and harder but good point if there ever was a place to do it, america is still the place to make financial gains.

However, the us dollar due to massive 36 trillion debt by the government is teetering, trumps trade bluffing is contributing to uncertainty and I would not be surprised that the US dollar deflates massively within the next 10 years and loses reserve currency status.

 

[Slowhandluke]

holeflation caused by serial dating mostly by average women and upper tier men; these men are unlikely to settle.... because they don't have to. every other excuse is society trying to cope.

 

[BaronOfHair]

holeflation caused by serial dating mostly by average women and upper tier men; these men are unlikely to settle.... because they don't have to. every other excuse is society trying to cope.

Yeah...The Sultan Of Brunei aside, life's tough for everyone sometimes, regardless of gender

 

[Slowhandluke]

Yeah...The Sultan Of Brunei aside, life's tough for everyone sometimes, regardless of gender

life is easy for young women. On average, most men will be attracted to them. Mother nature made fertility one hell of a drug in order for people to couple up. A man doesn't have to be the sultan of Brunei. he only has to be the top 5% to smash and dash a much as he wants.

in the past, men who smash and dash were held accountable - e.g., shot gun weddings enforced by average men (brothers, dad's, the community, etc.)

in the past more men had sex and more women were happier. Chads notch count was extremely lower.

 

[BaronOfHair]

life is easy for young women

So long as you're not the daughter of a wino in Appalachia or The Rust Belt who was regularly forced to take her dead mother's place in Dear Ol' Dad's bed by age 12, a gal born to a dope wh-re in West Baltimore, a Chicana who ended up in a narcofocasa during a weekend visit to Juarez, or a Navajo girl who got beaten to death with a tire iron before ever getting a chance to leave the reservation... Yeah, life is a walk in the park

 

[Slowhandluke]

So long as you're not the daughter of a wino in Appalachia or The Rust Belt who was regularly forced to take her dead mother's place in Dear Ol' Dad's bed by age 12, a gal born to a dope wh-re in West Baltimore, a Chicana who ended up in a narcofocasa during a weekend visit to Juarez, or a Navajo girl who got beaten to death with a tire iron before ever getting a chance to leave the reservation... Yeah, life is a walk in the park

edge cases exist.. even now as a whole, women were happier... more men had sex.. and chads were in general told to pick one... and ONLY one, or else severe beat down by dad's, brothers, relatives, society, etc... also, women were told not to be loose or date players and cads.

 

[BaronOfHair]

... more men had sex..

The evidence https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/lets-change-the-world-seriously.283548/page-3#post-3147401 doesn't bear that(or many of these other Manosphere shibboleths)out

 

[Slowhandluke]

The evidence https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/lets-change-the-world-seriously.283548/page-3#post-3147401 doesn't bear that(or many of these other Manosphere shibboleths)out

I'm not sure if I believe this. how did humans reproduce? in a tough world, it takes two to raise kids and polygamy was not the norm. if most men did not have sex, wouldn't population decline like it is now?

also, in nations that do not allow women to serial date, do Muslim men have more or less sex as compared to western men?

 

[zekko]

"Average people"(regardless of gender, skin color, creed, or sexual orientation)end up settling for table scraps. That's the way it's always been and always will be

By that logic, then you're saying those average people are table scraps themselves.

 

[BaronOfHair]

By that logic, then you're saying those average people are table scraps themselves.

Often ends up that way, sadly

 

[Manure Spherian]

AOL Instant Messenger

I got action from AOL chat rooms.

 

[SW15]

I got action from AOL chat rooms.

Very good. I hadn't thought of AOL chat rooms in a long time. How did you get action from AOL chat rooms?

 

[BaronOfHair]

I got action from AOL chat rooms.

And there are far more options for meeting women TODAY then existed did back then. Grousing over how sh-tty the current dating and mating market is the equivalent of dining on nothing but rats and bugs, when surrounded by prime sirloin and fresh vegetables

 

[BaronOfHair]

in a tough world, it takes two to raise kids and polygamy was not the norm

Polygamy WAS/still is the norm in many societies. Humans have always mated, but it wasn't until relatively recently that everyone getting a partner/multiple partners became possible, and this is still only true in Post-Industrial nations

 

[Manure Spherian]

Very good. I hadn't thought of AOL chat rooms in a long time. How did you get action from AOL chat rooms?

I would spend time in chat rooms for Queens and bodybuilding. I'd message women, ask for pic exchanges and meet them. I also met a guy in the bodybuilding chat room who brought out three different women on separate occasions for us to get busy with (no, I am not lying).

I also met a girlfriend while in college on Love@AOL, their dating site.

 

[Manure Spherian]

Humans have always mated, but it wasn't until relatively recently that everyone getting a partner/multiple partners became possible, and this is still only true in Post-Industrial nations

Strong disagree. Although polygamy was the norm amongst much of the world, some European pagan societies had monogamy pre-Christianity. Northern Europeans have been the most monogamous of all groups. Although talks of sexual ethics and monogamy are antithetical to a seduction board, monogamy strengthens societies and it's likely why non-Europeans copied it. Polygamous societies are wrought with social pathologies and anti-social young men and it presents danger in war time and lack of male productivity.

If I were a young man in a polygamous society and at the bottom of the food chain and womanless, I would cause much trouble, and try to inspire others to do as well. Not joking. I'd be angry as all hell!

 

[BaronOfHair]

Although polygamy was the norm amongst much of the world, some European pagan societies had monogamy pre-Christianity. Northern Europeans have been the most monogamous of all groups

The Celts and The Norse practiced polygamy and monogamy simultaneously, for quite awhile, even after Christianization. Insofar as the rest of what you said goes, we're more or less in agreement:

I believe in keeping your word, once you've agreed to be exclusive, and also support promoting monogamish living, for the sake of staving off the pathologies you listed. I also say "Let's be humble with our expectations"

Humans are a randy species, so rates of infidelity will remain high

 

[Manure Spherian]

Humans are a randy species, so rates of infidelity will remain high

And there were harsh measures in the past in some places for that. And Chads were not worshipped. In fact, some were lynched or had literal shotguns pulled on them.

Good post.

 

[BaronOfHair]

And there were harsh measures in the past in some places for that

Such societies were ones in which hands were chopped off for SUSPICION of petty theft, and "blasphemy" earned anyone who dared to question dogma a beheading. Can't say that living in such an environment sounds especially pleasant