"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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TheAdonis

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wOOt your on the right track, you can actually bring yourself to talk to random girls, but ur horrible at it. Try and imagine ur in the girls position, you come up to her and start asking her survey questions and your prolly dont even have a paper or anything that shows that your not lieing to her. Women are extremly perceptive and I no all of them picked up on that, so right from the get go you are lieing to her, and she knows it. Use this as a rule treat her like a person not a woman, and when your talking to her try to put your self in her position and replay what you said but directed towards you. You will no why it didnt work, or did.

And for the sake of your penis, dont lie to her within the 5 mins you do talk to her.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Chase12 said:
dont u guys realize? hes making fun of elstud

hes coping his lame aproaches techniques and stuff and overexagerating them... i mean he said he was close to getting a girls number by talking to her for 5 secs.. hes obviously just kidding.. but he prolly denie it lol.. liek elstud denies hes a troll.. or well a geek..creepy one too
This coming from a kid who's probably never talked to a girl in his life and has no FR's compared to my several FR's. I'm not lying, I haven't got much success yet, but you try and come off as if you've actually do have success, when it's clear you don't. Infact the only reason you come on online boards dissing those who are improving, is because you're too scared to get off your computer and dissing others makes you feel like you're actually important. You're probably also the loser at school who nobody likes. Dude, take my advice, get off your computer, stop bragging on the internet about the success you DON'T have and DO something.
 

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It's either someone making fun of Viper or it is Viper forgetting that he logged into the wrong account. Either way, that person needs a mod ready to ban him.


But ElStud makes a good point, there are way too many KBJ on this board. If you suck like the rest of us, own up to it.
 

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Bling said:
It's either someone making fun of Viper or it is Viper forgetting that he logged into the wrong account. Either way, that person needs a mod ready to ban him.


But ElStud makes a good point, there are way too many KBJ on this board. If you suck like the rest of us, own up to it.
And I'm the guy who use to be Viper. So that's clearly not the case. Probably just some random keyboard jockey.
 

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whos viper?
and i dont get the "keyboard jocky" frase
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Forget about it man. Just keep going out there and sarging, I want to see some more FR's from you bud.
 

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ElStud said:
This coming from a kid who's probably never talked to a girl in his life and has no FR's compared to my several FR's. I'm not lying, I haven't got much success yet, but you try and come off as if you've actually do have success, when it's clear you don't. Infact the only reason you come on online boards dissing those who are improving, is because you're too scared to get off your computer and dissing others makes you feel like you're actually important. You're probably also the loser at school who nobody likes. Dude, take my advice, get off your computer, stop bragging on the internet about the success you DON'T have and DO something.
hah lmao.. no i dont post those lame FRs, because theyre lame and i dun have time to post them lol...

Uhmm no the reason i come this online board is because ppl like you are really funny.. and well all this Don juan thing in general.. the whole CF and cold target shiet..

Are you actually calling me a loser? Your the one who hangs out at the mall ALONE at weekends talking (creeping out) girls... Do you even have any friends to go party with?

i havent brag about n e sucess btw.. just saying this guy is making fun of u.. because your either a) a troll b) a geek
 

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Haha, 3 words man, get a life. I tried to help YOU out but you're a keyboard jockey and will always be one. Hey, you want to be a jockey, be a jockey, that doesn't concern me. You can talk all the crap about how I'm creeping out girls, but in the end, despite what you say, I'm actually improving while you sit at your computer and masturbate. Have fun sitting on the keyboard and ultimately dying a virgin.
 

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Oh did i make u sad? Your not improving, your just making a fool of yourself...

And im not a virgin hah.. and no i dont sit on my computer all day... wonder why i dont have FRS or 49 posts when u have umh.. 600 posts and like amillion fo the so called FRs

geek
 

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Hey, buddy why you getting so offended? If you REALLY weren't a virgin, you wouldn't be so quick to defend yourself. You're a really sad case, you've probably never talked to a girl in your life and then you come on the computer DISSING those who are improving. Classic keyboard jockey and you'll probably die a keyboard jockey too, which is actually worse than dying a virgin, because you never even TRIED to talk to women.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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i stumbled onto this site after watching "The Pick-Up Artist" on VH1, it looks interesting, if a bit unconventional. anyway, i'm egar to learn more about this, you know, "method".

anyway, w00t, just some friendly advice, when a girl says she waiting for someone or that someone is waiting for her...that's her escape plan. especially when she then runs to the bathroom to get away from the 'stranger who is taking an unusual amount of interest in me' situation. you're intentions are in the place, but remember, you are a stranger to these girls. i've always found meeting people in public places like the grocery store or the mall a challenge, but it can be done.

like if you're in barnes and noble, and you just so happen to be browsing the selection in the same aisle as an interesting chick, just say something almost to yourself. like, "god, so maney choices" or "where is chuck palahuik?" or if you pick up a book about tattoos, just say "tattoos" (like, ah-ha! tattoos! finally) and give her a smile. she can take it from there if she's interested. it's just a casual opener, it's small talk. and if she doesn't take it from there, oh well. you were talking to yourself anyway. i mean, you'll have to think of you're own "openers" but really, all you have to do is become more comfortable making casual small talk. you can do this everywhere you go (preferably around ppl you won't see again to start with). man or woman, oldster of your own age, just become comfortable with light conversations with a stranger. 85% of the time these "conversations" will go no where, it's just being friendly really.

but all this "survey" ****, is so transparent. you want to give someone the creeps, you walk up to them and get in there face with questions and stories. you want to open a door, not act like a guy who's "after something".

my two cents anyway. i hope that made sense. best of luck, and honestly, for a couple weeks just work on small talk. and watch people around you, people do this all around you. pay attention to them.

ok, that's it! lol, i'm out.
 

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wow, ok, i didn't read page 2 and missed the big fight over who's the bigger geek going on here. sratch my previous post and continue on, by all means.
 

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Bling said:
But ElStud makes a good point, there are way too many KBJ on this board. If you suck like the rest of us, own up to it.
haha, i admit i suck, but at least im better than elstud...
 

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The jockies keep popping and it doesn't look like they'll be stopping. It's sad too, these guy will die virgins and be doomed to a life of forever masturbating to porn. That is, unless they stop talking crap and actually go out there and do something, which they probably won't.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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honestly though, have you ever done anything other than talk to girls in the mall? i dont care what diss you are going to throw my way, say what you must. but answer my question.
 

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honestly though, have you ever done anything other than talk to girls in the mall? i dont care what diss you are going to throw my way, say what you must. but answer my question.
How about you stop polluting the dudes the thread and stop posting unless you have something useful to say.
 

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hey... "arizona" just because your pie hole has never seen the ear lobes of a female doesnt mean that you can be a keyboard jockey and flaunt your failure in front of people that are trying like me... elstud is right... just dont be so mean... i dont like it and i dont deserve it... my feelings are hurt by your rudeness... that goes for all of you
 

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When I talk about KJ's hijacking threads this is exactly what I'm talking about.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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