"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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2nd date ??

Bagheera32

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So backstory, met this girl out on a stag do, it was in a club, we were both drunk but remember her being stunning. Got her number, was off on holiday in Dublin but said we should meet up when we get back. She agrees, we have a lot of flirty text back and forth, then onto whatsapp (think we were both trying to remember what each other looked like).
Anyway, had our first date tuesday, and, it was great, she was a real laugh, I was gently teasing her. We kissed, she held my hand on the walk back to the train station....perfect. She was even dropping hints of what we`d do next time.

So, the next day, whatsapped how you feeling today (we drank a lot of ****tails), got a few texts back an hour or so later (bear in mind she used to respond instantly) .
Next day, 10:00 am I say, it would be good to meet up this weekend if you are free...and then....nothing, not until 21:00 that evening. (bear in mind I can see she`s been online, I know I know, bit stalky)

Get this reply

"Hey sorry, been manic at work" "Can`t do this weekend as doing stuff with the flatmates, but thankyou ;o)

WTF, I`ve resisted saying that, have not replied....gents, thoughts, should I put it to the back of my mind and move on, its ashame as its the first date I`ve been on where I actually felt something. Usually I go through the motions but it works ironically haha
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Bagheera32

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So bit more, just a bit...left it with ok, no worries

My question, should I just leave it there and wait for her (if ever) to get back in contact or.

Wait until Tuesday / Wednesday and give it one last shot with something like "Hey, you free at all next week?"
 

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If u can wait . then wait. If u cannot then go back in the field.
Same thing happening to me. I cannot wait so I will go find more sluts.
 

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Sounds like she has lost interest
 

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Right guys, I was a bit down last week but reading these forums has helped get some perspective.

I was going to message her later on in the week but F@ck that. I think the key is just having a little self respect with yourself. Taking all day to answer back, when we know everyone is glued to their phones all day. Its a lack of respect...in fact, the image I have is her asking her girlie mates what to say and laughing about it.

So, sod you, cannot be bothered...if she texts back she will have a lot to make up for. If she doesnt, I`ll be too busy with the next ones to care.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Bagherr.....

If you want one more shot don't say when are you free. Say 2 days and times you can make it. That way she has 2 options. If she actually wants to go she will say what day or what day is better. I fall victim of this because it's like well we thjnk in our head "any day of the week your free girl I can do" and girls don't like that.

I would give it one more shot. Up to you. Good luck.
 

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Yea, for sure you should try it at least once. I dont think you guys are in bad shape.
Again texting, people just love to text... imo it kills all the fun/excitement about upcoming date, it kills all the mystery behind you ("did he really like me" "is going to ask me out again?").
 

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Cheers guys, despite my earlier rant I was actually contemplating that. I do know she is extremely busy as even before we met it was finding a day she could fit in. (could be me making excuses)

Anyway, going to see if shes free Tuesday or Wednesday next week. If she says shes busy and gives no other options then I will delete the number and move on.
 

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Update...so messaged her (did try ringing but no answer). Said are you free tuesday/wednesday next week....no answer. can see she has been online so guess there is my answer.
Lol, women ay, the eternal mystery, can see I`m not alone with the 1st amazing date and then nothing story.

Wonder if they are on a similar forum saying, he did this, he did that and they have fellow don juans (what would the female equivalent be) saying kick him to the curb girl!!!

Haha, anyway, onwards and upwards, was worth a shot
 

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Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Yea, just move on man. IF she will get in touch with you, be polite and answer, but try to be as indifferent as possible. For example, if she will suddenly have time, i think it's better to tell her that you made some plans already, but still can see her later on some other week (probably a bit AFC, but if you really like, worth giving another try since she got in touch with you..).
 
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