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26 y.o. Virgin

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I've recently been talking to this HB 7 26 y.o., she is cool as hell and I've been talking to her for a little while now. Anyway after one night at the bar, I walked her to her car and went in for a kiss or make out session and it went well. She texts me later and says that we should have a sleep over next time, but that she doesn't want sex because she's a virgin. I thought yeah ok sure, she's F@cking with me. Anyway we've hung out a couple more times since then, and every time she eliminates any opportunities for us to have alone time or chances for me to escalate. For example, invites me over and then when I get there one of her friends (female) from home is there and she did not tell me. This leads me to believe that she really is a virgin. My point is this I'm 23 and have had sex with a couple people like any normal person, I'm not sure if I'm looking to get in a serious thing right now and I feel like it is going to be an investment with this girl due to the virgin thing. We def get along, and I'm open to keep talking to her and see where it goes she does seem like the type of girl I might date. However, if I don't have any physicality with her then I'm going to lose interest, and I'm borderline friendzoning her as it is.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Should I just be honest with her about my intentions? or should I just focus on escalating? How do I bring up the whole sex issue without coming across as an @sshole? I mean obviously I don't have a lot invested in this girl, but like I said I'm open to see where it goes. I get the whole why buy the cow, if you can get the milk for free but its also true that what idiot is going to buy the cow without tasting the milk first. I don't wanna get forced into something with this girl and be unhappy.
 

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26 years holding out is gonna be a lot of work bro, trust me.
my ex was a virgin till just after she was 26 - It took me 8 months.... she still let me take the a$$ before that though.

lot of effort but its up to you. I mean you've already spoken on the subject, have you checked to see if she's waiting for marriage?
 

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No I haven't checked about the waiting till marriage thing yet, maybe I should bring it up somehow. Glad you could share your experience, and yeah I feel like it's gonna be a lot of work. I mean a 26 year old girl, still a virgin is a bit weird to me especially in this day and age. Did i mention I met this girl through POF hahaha.
 

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She obviously has intimacy issues. I'm thinking something bad must have happened to her at some point in her past to make her not trust men on a sexual level, some sort of huge betrayal of her trust. It had to be an attempted rape or sexual abuse. You can't really just ask something like that; she might not even remember what traumatized her.
 

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Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

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Yeah that's true, like its weird I try and go for kino and to sit and get close to her and I can tell there's some sort of issue or she's uncomfortable. I mean its not like I have don't have any rapport with her we flirt and what not. And also like I said the most we've done is kiss as she's walking me to my car. Her roommate is also a super sl@t and my girl is always talking about how crazy she is with threesomes and sh!t. Like my girl can't believe girls do this sort of thing lol. The whole time I'm thinking to myself "Yeah, you should probably take notes". I'd hate to say it but I'm not sure I see this girl in a romantic light because of this, I'm actually friendzoning a girl for once haha.
 

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Not sure if I'm ready to put in that much effort, seems like an uphill battle. I don't care how cool she is or how well we click. I'll probably just keep her on the back burner while I game "more willing" girls. Ya dig?
 

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TheWolfMan said:
Not sure if I'm ready to put in that much effort, seems like an uphill battle. I don't care how cool she is or how well we click. I'll probably just keep her on the back burner while I game "more willing" girls. Ya dig?
Good plan:up:
 

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Her roommate is also a super sl@t

That's funny. I was going to mention that frigid girls have a lot in common with slvts. It makes sense that they would be roommates. Having sex with no one and having sex with everyone are both ways of avoiding intimacy.
 

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I'm in the same boat, man. Chick avoids alone time like hell, I'm thinking she might be a virgin-girl like yours, as well. Your perception of it feeling like it is not going to be easy is how I feel as well with mine. It's kind of a crappy situation to have, honestly.

I agree to the friendzone/backburner technique, it's the way to go.

Good luck, man.
 

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