"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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25 year old virgin

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I was here learning about the game in sosuave way back in 2002 but since then I have not made any major progress in my love and social life, bussiness seems to keep getting in the way. I spend most of my time working on my bussiness and kind of put girls as a second priority or most of the time they arnt on the list at all.

Now being 25 years old and never had a gf and still a virgin :eek: my financial life is pretty good. Am reaching 7 figure yearly income or a million/millions a year but money doen't bring me happiness (as always)

I know where I wanna go in life and know what to do, I just feel am so late getting into the game. My friend told me "some people focus on making money and worry about financial when they get older and work their asses off to pay the bill and you Analytic on the other hand have that taken care off. It is now time for you to live your life!"

What do you guys think of that statement? did I make the right decision to focus on bussiness in my young age? Am I missing out on anything if I start getting into the game now then if I did when I was younger? am probably trying to justified my desicions but am just in a regret phase rightnow and just need to vent.

Thanks for listening... or reading!
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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You are in the perfect position to learn what it is you need. I'm sure that you will have some regrets, but who doesn't???

Good luck, and please don't lose your soul in the process of becoming a "DJ."
 

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Don't live in the past or future, live in the present. Start living. Take up new activities, make friends through that. Make friends who have a night life.
 

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Yeah, it's time man, go live your life..seriously.

Sorry to say, but women are greedy man, they'll chase a man with wealth in a second. But hey, maybe that's something you have on your side. You say "women are your second priority" that's actually perfect, women love busy guys, if you put in some extra time to go after some chicks, you'll get results man. If you've been reading since '02, you should ATLEAST have the basics, just put some time in man.

Maybe take a vacation.
 

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dude you gotta a lot of money so buy some nice sh!t. I know its shallow but at the initial phase thats all they see. espically if you want a hot girl cause they like nice thinkgs and it adds to your self image of being the sh!t. dont get me wrong first you gotta belive in yourself that you are the sh!t then the nice things add more to that. its all about status. two guys look identical same personality etc. one has 89 accord the other has a ferrari. both are standing in front of their car. which guy is the girl going to go too? if your old fashion and what an old fashion girl then you dont need nice things.

just make yourself the whole package. work out, have a lot of money have a good eduction etc. fun person to be around and things will work. youre 25 your stock value is going up anyways with girls. you see a 30 yr old with a 21 yr old girl more often than the other way around.

go buy a diamond watch a nice car, nice clothes, act somewhat ****y but dont brag and youll get pvssy dude trust me.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Hi,

You're not the only 25-year old virgin.

I'm also still a virgin, but not like you I spend lots of time going out, joining
clubs, talking to woman, being on dates ( blind dates, dates with chicks from the internet, ... ) Nothing worked. I've never had s*x, not even being close for one moment.
I also found this site a couple of years ago, read the material over and over and tried it out in the field. ... No result
watched some movies and read other stuff about speed seduction ( Tranceguide ) but it didn't work either.
Starts to drink some alcohol before a party for being in the mood, talked to woman then, but no succes.
Starts to work out and buyed other clothes, not one change ...

The only thing that has changed the last year, is that I can talk much easier to strangers than before and that I became a lot more social.

kind regards
 

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Who cares if you are a virgin? You had your priorities straight,started a career and took care of yourself first. Since you are well off now and financially stable you are ahead of the rest of the game,just stick around the board(listen to the expierenced) and you will the best around. Now its time for you to go buy some nice clothes,shoes,car,a cologne collection,haircut and hit the town.
 

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blinkwatt said:
Who cares if you are a virgin? You had your priorities straight,started a career and took care of yourself first. Since you are well off now and financially stable you are ahead of the rest of the game,just stick around the board(listen to the expierenced) and you will the best around. Now its time for you to go buy some nice clothes,shoes,car,a cologne collection,haircut and hit the town.
This is great advice I think...its hard for me to believe that you dont' have alpha-male attitude and confidence and swagger with your crazy income at such a young age!! Like seriously man...wtf?! Think about how few people are in your position, etc...you've gotta have confidence and someone in your position should easily have that! If a broke ass university student (who's almost your age) can have confidence, why can't you!?
 

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1) mail order bride

2) high class escort every week

3)flash $1000 and say "who wants to **** me?"

the above 3 are just jokes, but my point is - u got SO MUCH $$, GO USE IT
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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blinkwatt said:
Who cares if you are a virgin? You had your priorities straight,started a career and took care of yourself first.
I agree. It's tough to have the time to both work on your career a lot and chase tail a lot. Usually, one has to give...

I think what you did is MUCH harder though - millionaire by 25? Holy shyt, that's like 1 in a f'n million! I'd kill to be that! How did you do it, btw?

Frankly, puzzy is a small finite return on your investment of time and energy. Whereas money can keep compounding and replicating itself - and eventually grant you TRUE FREEDOM from being FINANCIALLY INDEPENDENT.
 

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its hard

Your thread is so similar to mine and also my situation. I'll tell you this having money doesn't help that much. I'm working as a Computer analyst/programmer for EA sports and i make pretty good money and i have yet any women. I drive a G35.
I now a friend's brother who works at Whitespot as a Prep cook and has no car and goes to college and has a hot gf. its all about who ya now ppl date within their own circle of friends of friends of freinds. everyone is like a clicker

its all about if you have no guy friends who have gfs or can get dates easily, and your social connections. don't hang out with the geeks , nerds and socially quite guys, they will be single all their life.

i was a late late bloomer too at 26, at this age i just hook up with girls off the net, only way. what you gonna tell a gal when she ask you this :when was your last relationship and why did u guys break up, or how long have you been single . what do u say or how do u say it . even for me i don;t now what to say but make some BS up
 

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I know if I go out alot and show my "bling bling" then yea I might have some success. I don't actually have that much money for me btw. I support my whole family since my parent dont work. I put my sis through college, buy cars, house etc... somtimes my bank is clean out but hopefully after the mortgage is payed off then I can spend money on myself.

Money can be made anytime if you think outside the box and are willing to think that its possible. A million a year is nothing compare to the people I know in the bussiness, its actually a disapointing number for me personally. Anyway am not here to brag about my bussiness even though I may have a little. Money and bussiness is my accomplishments so I try to front that to show that am "the man" to hide my complete failure in life experience.

It is just so hard for me to connect with anyone now even with guys, especially hard when it comes to girls. I can't talk bussiness with girls, who wants to hear that? am just completely dull. I have nothing to talk about because I dont care for the fluff talk or have any stories to tell. I don't think money makes any big diffrence if you're a big dud.
 

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You're not a big dud. The only thing that separates the winners from the losers is time. And you know what? If you chose so, you could have more time than 90% of the rest of the population. You could spend more time refining your personal skills, developing your body, honing hobbies and outright just doing interesting things - more than most people because most people are stuck in an office all day only to come home and watch television and maybe have sex with their wife a couple times a month.

But your potential here is big. If you really have or will have $1 million dollars saved up, you can (if you choose to live off of the interest) spend the rest of your life developing yourself personally so much so that girls will find you more attractive than the large majority of males because they spent their time in an office, eating Burger King and watching television. You're in a good position. And 25 isn't so bad at all.

You only must recognize this opportunity in order for you to take it. Or you can keep thinking that others are better than you just because they spent the first 7 years of their life after high school differently and have slightly more refined social skills than you do. Everybody learned one way or the other. And you have an opportunity to learn more than most.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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i call b.s. too.

sounds exactly like some other guy round these parts claiming to be a millionaire.

very sad.

not that i care.

but what's your story this time? what do you do that is so outside of the box that makes you rich?

there was forex before... what is it now?

delta
 

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Could be a troll... but where I work (the Internet) it's not all that uncommon for one man shows making multiple 5 figures a month.
 

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???

exactly where on the internet is that a pretty common thing?!

where i DWELL (on the internet), i know that such claims are really really easy to make.

delta
 

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Credit card sites, travel sites, celebrity sites, technology sites, porn sites, etc., etc., etc.
 

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Big deal...
my parents are millionaires but I don't flaunt or talk about it even. we bought a 4.9 mil estate afew years ago, but it didn't change anything about who i am.

This guy just has to work on his inner game, and he'll be fine. Ya sure go out and buy the nice car, personal trainer/dietician, etc..but it wont change who he is inside.

P.S. I smell bs too...If you don't make money in stocks, lottery, inherent, then you DONT make that money by the age of 25 without having at the very least GOOD social skills. it just DOESNT happen in the business world, people dont follow somebody who has no confidence in themselves. period.

take it from me, my parents were able to BS investors to sink money into their companies, and it takes serious confidence in yourself to be able to sway other people's opinions..especially when money is on tap.

Whatever, if he is real...work on your inner game and be confident about yourself.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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