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21 and trying to end the misery

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Ever since I can remember, I've been in what seems like the same exact position, the one that screams "I'm very frustrated with myself as a guy". With Valentine's Day coming up (the day that I was brought home from the hospital after birth) I think back to the last 5 Valentine's in particular and notice that I really haven't improved in the area of building bonds/creating sparks with girls because it looks like I'm going to be dateless again like I have every Valentine's Day of my life and encounter the same empty feeling in my chest.

A few reasons for these errors might be that (1) I am a very impatient guy and I seem to want approval somewhat quickly, if not right away even though I don't think I'm vocal and pushy about wanting the approval. I just feel like the energy and enthusiasm get stifled a little and I start getting a little awkward and it's enough to ruin it. I think to myself how ridiculous it is when a girl doesn't seem to have that spark or the spark doesn't last. Of course, there is a definite pattern to my failures with girls. (2) I find myself getting sucked into negative discussions about women and rationalizing why we're just not compatible. I think I have some appeal but it seems like only when I'm forcing a great mood that it comes across and it doesn't appear that I can maintain this "attractive, I can have anyone vibe" long enough to have any significant influence on them. I feel like my life as it concerns women is a big paradox or a really bad dream.

There is a lot of anxiety but as much as I try to carry myself well and radiate as much appeal as I can without seeming unnatural, some days I don't think any of them really notice me. At the community college I go to, there aren't thousands of girls but there are plenty of them to approach. I just don't feel comfortable talking to most of them because most of them don't show any obvious signs of interest and the last girl I approached at school, I thought for sure was interested in me by the way I caught her looking at me and I kind of smiled to let her know I knew. But then when I talked to her (it was just before one of her finals though) I wasn't funny and I tried to make a conversation but I could tell I should've just sat right where I was and not said enough because the chemistry stopped the moment I started talking to her.

There is a girl in one of my humanities classes who smiled at me on one occasion and I caught her looking at me a few times. Yesterday, I noticed she was looking right at me and I wanted to just walk right up and start talking but I kept thinking, maybe my self-image would be just fine without going up and talking and ruining the non-verbal communication vibe that was going on. This other chick in one of my classes kind of smiles whenever she looks at me, but the way she does it makes me wonder if she just thinks I'm a loser or that I'm actually cute. The smile doesn't indicate interest the way I see it. Another girl I had in a class last semester came into my work and was asking me if I made it through the art class we had together and wondered why I was never there (I mentioned her before in another post because she came in my work). Of course, I lied to her and said I had another class that was concurrent with it even though I just stopped coming. Again, she doesn't really lead on that she's interested. I said something I thought was funny, that an interested girl would laugh at, but she didn't. So I'd like to talk to a lot of girls and I think I have what it takes to charm them but in the moment, I know that the slightest bit of awkwardness will lead me back to sitting alone or just having a friendly chat and feeling like one of the girls, which I really hate.
I'd rather not say anything. Socially it seems that I'm a hit or a miss and when it counts, I'm just a little off the mark.

I want to stop thinking about sex and trying to get into their pants but at the same time I think to myself that I am sexually good enough to get them into bed and if I just act like a friend then that's what I'll end up being anyway. Clearly, my mind has to be the enemy. I seem to have wilder thoughts also when I'm by myself, the ability to think of funny things but then when I get in the moment, it's a hit or a miss and usually it doesn't come across the way I want it to. Another thing is that since I don't think many of them notice me, I'm not approaching enough of them to get to the point where I'm pretty much TOTALLY comfortable. I think highly of myself but I need an audience. What do you think my plan should be as far as appealing more as quickly as I can? I'm wondering how detached I should be from situations as I know I can be slightly intense. And what can I do to keep myself in a magnetic frame of mind? Being positive and upbeat and smiling all the time can be exhausting...because the most I get even then is a smile and a hello and we all know that just doesn't cut it. I want to talk to some girls this semester and make a change that is lasting and prove to myself that I am more than good enough and that I really can appeal to women in more than just a friendly way/more than just at face value. I feel like I've already begun but I fall back into my old comfort zone of negative talks about my relationship with women in general.
 

Julian

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So.... what exactly are you asking?
 

octane_orphan

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... I have just waisted 5 minutes of my life on that! .... i will never get that back! ..... :s
 

Chris Gamble

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You are thinking way too much man. Approach these hotties in your classes and chat them up, what have you got to lose?

-Chris
 

thefonz

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i'm so glad i decided to scroll down and read the replies 1 sentence into that post......go see a therapist man i'm telling you, of all the things i've tried this is working the best because a specialist is wokring specifically on MY needs
 

MrCode

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1. You shouldn't need women's approval to feel good about yourself. Work on building a life for you that you enjoy, and women just add to it.

2. Don't approach women who you think like you. Approach women that you want to meet. There is a distinct difference there. If you work on 1 above, you will have more success because you won't scare the girls off with your neediness. Once your game is solid you can be more selective in who you approach to increase success, but for now DO NOT WORRY ABOUT THAT.

3. Stop thinking so much. I'm sure that will be hard for you, but the easiest solution to overthinking is just to start acting without thought. Obviously don't go overboard, but you should follow the 3 second rule and approach cute girls as soon as you see them. Approach them to see if they are cool and good enough for you, not to see if they approve of you.

4. Don't be afraid of your sexuality. There is nothing wrong with wanting to screw hot women.

5. You are right, all your problems are in your head, so if you can straighten yourself out you will do a lot better.
 
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I appreciate the responses. Yesterday after I posted that long, drawn-out sob story, I actually got a #. Of course, the girl was friendly so it was a little easier than usual. She walked up and I just asked how she was doing then started amusing her a little and after a moment she sat down. She's cute but definitely more on the average side and very friendly. I saw her earlier today too as I was walking by the library. I happened to look through the door and I think she recognized me first because she was really cheery. We only spoke for a moment as I was walking toward the parking lot. I figured I shouldn't give her too much time. Basically, I wasn't thinking about sex that much during the talk and it helped that she's not a knock-out but I was calm and that seemed to work, even if I didn't slip in quite as much playful naughtiness as I wanted to. THANKS.
 

NewMan

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It was a long time before I even started dating girls. A long time before I actually lost my virginity.

I had a self image problem, as many guys do - it wasn't until I was older in life that I figured some things out. It's amazing - I now have been dating nothing but hotties. I never thought I'd get here.

A couple of things I've figured out on the way.

1) Don't trust you own feelings about your self image. See that nosem it's not THAT big. Those ears... they don't stick out THAT much. That zit, it not THAT noticible. etc. etc.

2) Hot women have terrible self image. Think about it, for all of their life they have been pitting themselves against the other hot looking girls. They don't want to lose their status or looks. They want the boys to think their "Cute" - they want the attention and they want to be popular.

3) All you need is a shower and a smile.

4) Never analyze it. Never worry about it. Life is life. Just get out there and do it.
 

ScrewIt

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According to your post name, you're a narcissist?

Boom. theres your problem. Often narcissism leads to over analyzing of things and especially of the self image. It also leads to a lot of worrying on your part, in which the mind puts you in a very poisoned state.

Well the only solution i can give you is seek help or get over your narcissism.
I know i used to be narcissist and i got over it, im much stress free now...as it does cause of lot of anxiety & stress.
 

lizardfloyd

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quit feeling sorry for yourself man. Hell you got a number the other day. Call her up in a couple. I cant girls for ****, but im not complaining. Heck, im still a virgin and im 20! havent even been on a date or had a gf.
 

cave dweller

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Brad?

Hey,

Wake up.........

There is a huge, enormous, beautiful world out there and you just sit around and think 'negative thoughts' about yourself and your life.

The only person who can pull you out of the 'sh*t hole' you live in is you.........

Remember this.......

Confidence and a Smile are the keys........

Try this:

Look in the damn mirror and become Brad Pitt.......

Walk like Brad....
Talk like Brad....
Sh*t like Brad.......
Be Brad Pitt...........

Only you can change your life.......

Wake up.

cave dweller
 
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Thank you for the replies, other than the last one, which stated that I would be dead soon. A friend of mine died a few weeks ago and I'm just now finding out about it so if you're going to reply, I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't be a tasteless @ss. Keep things like that to yourself because no matter how you say it, it sounds like you're wishing people ill. It's not amusing and it's a sorry, low-rent way to be. Thanks to everybody else for their input.
 

cave dweller

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life.....

Hey,

Like I said above, if you are living a sh*ty, worthless, screwed up life------ you and only you can change that.

So now....go make it happen.

cave dweller
 
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