"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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20's meeting 30's-40's at bars...

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This isn't one of those "I need help" threads, but more like an observation. I'm 26 and I prefer to date women who are in their 30's because they don't b.s. as much as women in their 20's. I went to a bar last night and had good conversation with 2 women, one was 38 and one was over 40. It was weird but I've never been that successful with meeting more than one at a time, although I have dated women within that range before.

I just have to say that I dressed well (nice dress shirt, slacks and dress shoes), I relaxed and I didn't get freaked out and I had no problem getting into a good conversation with them.

One just happened to sit down next to me, and the other one was making eyes at me while I was talking to the first one. I even kissed the second one twice before the end of the night (I had no intention of taking her home, so I didn't try it).

Have any of you mid-20's DJ's had success talking up older women in clubs, nightspots or neighborhood bars?
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Originally posted by josekortez
This isn't one of those "I need help" threads, but more like an observation. I'm 26 and I prefer to date women who are in their 30's because they don't b.s. as much as women in their 20's. I went to a bar last night and had good conversation with 2 women, one was 38 and one was over 40. It was weird but I've never been that successful with meeting more than one at a time, although I have dated women within that range before.
This is a well known secret of us 30-somethings. Isn't it wonderful having not to wade through a bunch of BS? The problem is that baggage replaces the BS. You tend to meet up with women already having children and/or preconceptions about how most men are dogs. However, they do let you know these things up front you it's easy to next them whenever necessary.
 

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I love older women, but I have a hard time closing them. My guess is they can't understand why a younger guy would be interested in them, so their defenses go up because they figure I just want to screw and be on my way... And they're right!!! :up:

Anyway, any tips on how to break these old broads down would be much appreciated... and please don't start spewing DJ Bible material at me either.
 

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Originally posted by drZaius09
Anyway, any tips on how to break these old broads down would be much appreciated... and please don't start spewing DJ Bible material at me either.
Romance them. I don't mean spending tons of money on them either. Make them feel desired while making them laugh. Put their emotions on ****y/funny/romantic roller coaster and you will be well on your way.

Oh yeah, never talk about age. As soon as it is mentioned, they will feel that you see them primarily as an older woman. It's probably because it is foremost in their mind. Your job is to basically make them forget that. ;)
 

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Thanks Franco... good tip about not talking about the age thing... I think that may have been my greatest folly until now, the age gap thing was always the foremost topic of conversation. I'll make sure to swerve the dialogue away from that from now on.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Or you can lie about your age and say your older. I did that one time and she still said i was too young!
 

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That would never work, I'm sort of a baby face.
 

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I have really young face too. How do I convince the woman that I am 37yrs old? Should I reveal my age? I look younger than all the women at that age.
 

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I figure that the best way to get them to forget about age is to let them know that you're stable. Like me, for instance, I own my car (it's old), I have my own place, I work full-time. Once you make them aware that you're not digging for gold, they tend to take you more seriously when having a conversation. And you might be able to close them.
 

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Originally posted by Ricky
Or you can lie about your age and say your older. I did that one time and she still said i was too young!
Isn't that what women do (lie about their age)?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Originally posted by picard
I have really young face too. How do I convince the woman that I am 37yrs old?
By your actions.
 

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older women don't care about age or status as much. just s-ex 'em up. that's what they usually want. older=hornier and less inhibited
 
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