2012 Election [All discussion here]

[backseatjuan]

Romney won!!! Just as predicted. Everything's corrupt, everything's f`cked up, everything's bought and paid for.

 

[Married Buried]

Romney won!!! Just as predicted. Everything's corrupt, everything's f`cked up, everything's bought and paid for.

It won't surprise me if he tries to steal the election like Bush did in 2000. But Romney is such a fake candidate I doubt he will win.

Through a closely held equity fund called Solamere, Mitt Romney and his wife, son and brother are major investors in an investment firm called H.I.G. Capital. H.I.G. in turn holds a majority share and three out of five board members in Hart Intercivic, a company that owns the notoriously faulty electronic voting machines that will count the ballots in swing state Ohio November 7. Hart machines will also be used elsewhere in the United States.

In other words, a candidate for the presidency of the United States, and his brother, wife and son, have a straight-line financial interest in the voting machines that could decide this fall's election. These machines cannot be monitored by the public. But they will help decide who "owns" the White House.

http://truth-out.org/news/item/12204-does-the-romney-family-now-own-your-e-vote

 

[btownbuck2012]

All i know is that I graduated from a Big Ten University with a 3.5GPA, with two internships, one in Indiana and another in Washington, DC and I still can't find a good paying job. This **** is getting ridiculous. I'm voting for Romney

 

[backseatjuan]

Vote for anyone you wish. It does not matter. Elections are rigged, candidates are fake. Obama is fake, Romney is fake. It does not matter who you vote for, or who wins. Policy will still remain the same, you still won't be able to find a good job. Economy is being sabotaged for a reason. Money is being devalued for a reason. You are just 99% that are willing to bend over and take.

 

[Leporello]

It blows my mind when people say 'the economy is bad, so I'm voting for Romney'.

The economy is growing, and while it sure isn't growing fast enough we KNOW that Romney's econ plan is to revert to all the Bush policies that wiped us out.

Voting for the Rombot like someone saying 'The medicine my doctor gave me is working too slowly, so I'm going to stop taking it and go back to using leeches'.

 

[Mike32ct]

B i ll C l in t on put the final nails in this country's coffin with the following:

1. N A F T A (the giant sucking sound R o s s warned us about)
2. Most Favored N a t ion S t atus for C HI N A for trade deals (gotta love W a lm art)
3. Repealed Gl a ss-St e gal Act (leading to banking crisis)
4. Everybody can own a home (i.e. VERY loose requirements to qualify for mortgages)

B u s h comes in, continues the same policies, starts more wars, spends like mad, etc.

O b a ma campagned that he was going to "re-negotiate NAFTA." We never heard another word about that after his election. Did he "forget" lol?

It's all more of the same.

I'm not thrilled with either candidate. A reluctant vote for Romney here (although I'm sure he'll give us more "free trade" also).

 

[backbreaker]

All i know is that I graduated from a Big Ten University with a 3.5GPA, with two internships, one in Indiana and another in Washington, DC and I still can't find a good paying job. This **** is getting ridiculous. I'm voting for Romney

you know why you can't get a job? the REAL reason why you can't get a job?

the reason you can't get a job is beucase there are people in india/china/Pakistan who can do what you do for 1/3rd of the price.

and beucase you can't get a job, you want to vote for the one candidate who actually became a millionaire by buying companies, breaking them apart, sending whatever he could overseas to save money and dodge taxes

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/05/mitt-romney-taxes-netherlands_n_2077754.html

The economy is not the reason you don't have a job. **** we ****ing stay busy. Every web company I know is trying to hire someone. It's not a great economy but people are paying for work. The reason you can't get a job is beucase you do something that someone else over seas can do just as you can

i don't give a **** who you vote for and why you vote for them, but your rationale takes the cake

the economic red pill so to speak is that we won't turn **** around utnil we start creating new jobs, ****, new industries that are dependent on american workers that can't be outsourced. If someone in the US can do a job for 30 dollars that someone over seas can do for 15, eventually, someone's gonna send that job overseas. that's just the way the economy works today.

 

[BeDJ]

That's why my career is in B2B sales, let's see these folks build rapport with their customers :rock:

 

[Down Low]

Here's how the Obama faithful want the election to turn out but here's their most pessimistic map that still projects a Romney loss.

 

[PRMoon]

I don't know why there's all this "doom and gloom" talk that's so prevalent these days. My career path has never been "easy" despite who's been in office, yet I found ways to fo what I want when I want and have been progressing like the bad*ss I am since the Bush administration. People whine and complain about whoever is "running or ruining" the country every year instead of making plans to prepare for the future and finding whatever opportunities exist there in. Either one of these guys gets into office will not "spell the end for america" in all likelihood and if I'm wrong, I've already got a rock solid back up plan just in case. Stop worrying about "if" and solidify "when" even if it never gets here and I don't mean all that sabre rattling nonsense of "rebellion against the administration" A bunch of guys with shot guns and assult rifles will quickly lose their zeal when the first tank shell lands in their front yard.

 

[backbreaker]

I bolded the important part.

The problem is, we don't have the skilled workers. Too many people are going to school for liberal arts degrees or women's studies or social services or some other useless $hit.

Get a valuable degree and you will get a job. It's pretty fvking simple.

People have a right to be as profitable as they can, just as businesses have the same right. In fact, the more profitable you are, the more you actually do for your country. You think it's only a coincidence that Microsoft, Dell and Apple are so damn rich???

this is the best post you have ever made on this forum



rotfl what's really ironic is that none of the three finished college. Dell went to university of Texas and dropped out, Gates went to Harvard and dropped out and i forgot jobs.

the key is to become invaluable/. either by doing something no one else can do or doing what you do better than other people. getting a degree in itself doesn't' entitle you to jack ****.


none of my workers work in an office i don't believe in an office environment my company is 100% telecommute. we've gotten this **** down to a T where we are just as if not more efficient than most comapines who have to have an office. anyway, i say that to say that i have people all over. one of my graphic guys is in jersey, he just got back to work yesterday form the hurricane, one is in canada. i got one programmer here, one in Arkansas where i'm from, one in Nebraska..

The best programmer i have by far is from lucknow india. he's so smart / good I pay him the same rate i pay everyone else, I can't afford to lose him so i take care of him. Americans, have zero idea just how smart the rest of the world is. This dude runs circles around everyone else i have and i cherry pick programmers. And he's just 24. he only touches my big boy jobs, i dont' take any job without consulting with him first on any issues we might have or who on our team needs to handle it. And speaks fluent English. **** he spells better than i do lol. i'm seriousyl considering getting him a place here so i can have him here, i don't give a **** if he has to come live with me for a while

he eats, lives and breathes code. he had to to pull himself up out of the place he's from which, to be blunt is very very ****ty. he wanted it. he still wants it. he does very well for himself now, got a wife and a son that will be one next friday.

Americans, think that beucase they are american they are just better and nothing could be further from the case. your degree in the grand scheme of things doesn't mean ****. and if i had to, like, just had to i could pay him half of what i pay my other guys and he would still be doing very well to be from where he's from.

 

[Bokanovsky]

As a non-American looking in from the outside, here's my view of the two candidates:

Romney: typical, lying, flip-flopping politician. On the flip side (pun intended), he seems like a decent enough human being: family man, successful businessman, no history of substance abuse or serious moral indiscretions. The Mormon thing doesn't bother me very much. They are no different than any other Christian sect these days. As president, I doubt he'd make things much better but he also wouldn't make them worse. He would probably reduce taxes a bit and stimulate job growth but I doubt he's got the balls to tackle America's systemic problems head-on.

Obama: typical, lying, flip-flopping politician. On the personal side, a totally f*cked up individual hiding under the facade of a "friendly black guy that white people aren't afraid of". A closet black supremacist who's views were shaped by the likes of Malcolm X and Jeremiah Wright, he also suffers from major abandonment issues, having been ditched by both, his womanizing, alcoholic African father and his hippie, foreign c*ck chasing, multiple divorcee mom. Likely a total AFC, seeing how he ended up with his domineering, feminist, man-like wife. A man of little accomplishment (for a presidential candidate, anyway), he was pulled out of nowhere by cynical party leaders who correctly predicted that black voters would vote for anybody as long as he's black, which, combined with the the white guilt vote, would give Democrats the much-needed edge in a handful of battleground states. If elected for another term, Obama would likely drive the final nail in the coffin of the U.S. economy with his massive tax and spend agenda.

To me, Romney is, without question, the lesser of two evils.

 

[goundra]

At least, he's not openly anti-gun, which is also being anti-freedom, and Obama can't WAIT to brow beat the Senate into passing the US treaty against small arms production and possession.

 

[Quiksilver]

As a non-American looking in from the outside, here's my view of the two candidates:

Romney: typical, lying, flip-flopping politician. On the flip side (pun intended), he seems like a decent enough human being: family man, successful businessman, no history of substance abuse or serious moral indiscretions. The Mormon thing doesn't bother me very much. They are no different than any other Christian sect these days. As president, I doubt he'd make things much better but he also wouldn't make them worse. He would probably reduce taxes a bit and stimulate job growth but I doubt he's got the balls to tackle America's systemic problems head-on.

Obama: typical, lying, flip-flopping politician. On the personal side, a totally f*cked up individual hiding under the facade of a "friendly black guy that white people aren't afraid of". A closet black supremacist who's views were shaped by the likes of Malcolm X and Jeremiah Wright, he also suffers from major abandonment issues, having been ditched by both, his womanizing, alcoholic African father and his hippie, foreign c*ck chasing, multiple divorcee mom. Likely a total AFC, seeing how he ended up with his domineering, feminist, man-like wife. A man of little accomplishment (for a presidential candidate, anyway), he was pulled out of nowhere by cynical party leaders who correctly predicted that black voters would vote for anybody as long as he's black, which, combined with the the white guilt vote, would give Democrats the much-needed edge in a handful of battleground states. If elected for another term, Obama would likely drive the final nail in the coffin of the U.S. economy with his massive tax and spend agenda.

To me, Romney is, without question, the lesser of two evils.

Until America reforms its electoral system to prevent "winner takes all" elections, the only semblance of choice Americans will have is voting for "the lesser of two evils".

The historic outcome of a 'winner takes all' election is that both parties become two competing factions under the same umbrella Party of incumbents, lobbyists, and faceless interest groups who fund both sides.

That is only possible due to a 'captive' electorate who feel forced to vote in the Coke vs. Pepsi puppet show.



There simply is no practical or realistic incentive to vote for someone whom you support. You can clear your conscience by voting for your ideological representative, however your individual conscience does not affect public policy.

 

[donking]

romney is going to lose florida and thus the election.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Live results:
http://www.politico.com/2012-election/map/#/President/2012/

Swing state map:
http://www.politico.com/2012-election/swing-state/

As of this second, even giving Florida to Romney (it's a tie right now, plus ABC just said Dade County is only 40% reported, versus 77% statewide reporting), and what looks like a surprise win in Virgina, he still falls short of what he needs.

My predicted final score: Obama 290, Romney 248. Even if Romney takes both Wisconsin and Iowa, as well as Florida, he still loses 276-264. If he loses Florida, he has no chance.

 

[backbreaker]

it's over. Obama will win Florida, Miami, PA, VA, Colorado

 

[backbreaker]

game time

 

[Married Buried]

Now he doesn't need to be re elected so I hope he changes foreign policy (stops licking Israels balls) and does something about the drug war.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Marijuana legalization has strong leads right now in Colorado and Washington.

(edit) Politico.com is just now saying the WA measure is going to win.