"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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2 questions! plz read don't be lazy!:D

DJsomeday

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Hi, i don't want you to read more than you should so here goes:

1. I wanted to practice my skills on some friends of mine so i asked them out, they both agreed but eventually they asked me "so who else is going with us?" or something like that, i don't have any interest in one of them so i told her to call some of our friends bcuz i didn't really have time (i really don't) and that i really cared more about the coffee than about who came with us :p (it's kinda true lol). I eventually got the second one to come alone with me, i told her "it's ok i trust you i don't think you'd take advantage of me in a fast food restaurant right?", which leads me to the next question.

2.the girl i'm kinda interested in suggested the idea that i take her to the fast food place because i told her something like "now that i finished school i supposse u'll invite me somwhere right?" and she said something like "fast food place, you invite me" thing is i definately won't pay for her stuff at least i don't want to, how can i make myself clear? and what can i do to make it really fun besides good convo?.

Keep in mind that i'm still starting the way of the Don Juan and that i've read the basics and kinda intermideate stuff, i'm now trying to apply it.

Thanks in advance ppl goodbye :).
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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First, your mentality is in the wrong place. You're trying to "C&F" your way into the chick but not using it correctly. Using the whole Deangelo smorasborg is like adding salt and pepper to your meal, a li'l dash'l do ya.

Second, you're making this chick think she's on a date with you. Scratch that word from your vocabulary from this moment on. You no longer "date" you go out and have fun and if she wants to join in on your fun she's more than welcome. That is the mindset you want to have every moment of every day.

Third, don't be a cheap bastard. If the chick wants a cheeseburger and Coke tossed down her gullet that's not too much to spring for to get your nut sliding down behind it for dessert.
 

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KarmaSutra said:
Third, don't be a cheap bastard. If the chick wants a cheeseburger and Coke tossed down her gullet that's not too much to spring for to get your nut sliding down behind it for dessert.
i agree 200% :)
 

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lol thanks for the answers, specially kamasutra thanks for pinpointing my mistakes i'll learn from them!... lol i'm not a cheap bastard the thing is i depend on my parents money and we are kinda saving money so i don't know how much they'll give me ... i'll try to get as much as i can though!.

Kamasutra said:
You're trying to "C&F" your way into the chick but not using it correctly. Using the whole Deangelo smorasborg is like adding salt and pepper to your meal, a li'l dash'l do ya
can you explain a little more plz? i don't quite get what you say... thanks.

EDIT: oh i totally forgot i've read in a couple places that you shouldn't pay things in the first dates and stuff like that bcuz its like your buying her time or something like it, any opinions on the matter?.
 

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DJsomeday said:
EDIT: oh i totally forgot i've read in a couple places that you shouldn't pay things in the first dates and stuff like that bcuz its like your buying her time or something like it, any opinions on the matter?.
that's only ment for things like big expensive dinners and big expensive dates. the first date should never by expensive, or u should not pay anything at all. you're only buying her if u go all out on the first date and u barely even kno her. it's nothing wrong with payin for small things on the first date, it's just showing ur nice(in the good since) and not a cheap typewod.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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btw guys any pointers on what should or shouldn't do? i've read a lot of stuff but i would appreciate if you could tell me from your experience, thanks.

My objective being: Me having fun is the way to go right?
 
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