"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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2 girls; one I like, one everyone else does

Rex Man

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Okay, I'm in an LTR with this chick. However another girl that stays on my campus has made an "indecent proposal" and I have to say, I want to do it.

Problem, guys are always talking about how good my current gf looks, guys are always hitten on her (when I'm not there) and basically she'll do anything for me

The other girl, 7.5 at best, but hey, she's cool too.

Anybody else have this situation? Advice?

P.S. Please no follow your heart B.S. and "don't worry about other people" crap because everybody loves a gf everyone else wants to be with.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Gotta love opening that big ole can of worms... hey?

-Rant on-

I would tell the second chick this. "How about you give me a picture of yourself naked with a big dildo hanging out of your cooche and I'll masturbate over it tonight. That way if my girlfriend finds out, I can claim that I didn't f<beep>king betray her trust by cheating on her with a f<beep>king hoe bag slut like yourself. How would you feel if your boyfriend were out doing the same thing right now?" Then I'd just shake my head, turn and walk away.

-Rant Off-

Good luck.

-Al
 

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First off Albion4---That was f*uckin awesome!...Good call.

Anyway Rex back in HS there was this girls Mallory, who was not by any means hot prolly like a 7.5, but cute enough to not be embarassed about. She was sorta like a home-wrecker cuz she would target my buddies in relationships and hook up with them thus ending the relationship. We called it the Mal-Factor hahah. Anyway this chick could be dangerous, if your gf isnt that important go for it and nail that 7.5 of yours, but dont think youll be able to play both of them.

Peace
 

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mmm how hot is your girl? If she's equal or better then the other girl...hell who am I kidding I'd still do it!

You're 19 so that makes you what a freshman?! Who cares if your girlfriend finds out? Mine did when I was a freshman and I still kept her with me. And those were only the ones she found out about, there were times off campus away from prying eyes that she still doesn't know about to this day.

We broke up second semester, but I was bored with her by then and moved on to a 26 year old when I was your age.

College is all about having a good time, I wouldn't worry too much about who you're with more so rather what you can do/ get away with. It's definately good player training for when you get out.

Besides you'll feel way worse about sex you passed on with decent chicks then you will having done it and gotten busted.

I'd strike a deal with the 7.5 and arrage a get togheter (or two or three if possible) but under the conditions that It's got to be private away from walls with ears. It's not hard to do some sneaking you just have to cover your tracks completely and you have to be EXTRA careful to cover all your bases when the plan goes down, DL style.

It's up to you homie but remember you only live once.
 

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just got on since posting the thread and thanx for the good advice.

My gf just left so I'm gonna take Moon's advice, go for the other girl tonight, and see how long I can get away wit it:D
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I think you're a scumbag for doing it...

...but good luck.

You act like you HAVE to HAVE a girlfriend to HAVE casual sex. Most young idiots think that way. Listen, if you're in a monogonamus relationship with someone..it usually cancells out sleeping with other people. If you're going to fuck around like this, then just break up with your current girl. you're 19. You're too young to be having a girlfriend anyways, because you're too immature to be in a relationship. Don't be too insulted, 99.99 percent of ALL 19 year olds aren't mature enough to handle a stable relationship.

If you know your girl is a slut, that's one thing. But she's being faithful to you. SOoooo do her a favor and break up with her before you bring home to her any diseases from this whore you plan to get it on with.


For your girlfriend's sake, have at least THAT much respect for her.


My best advice to you is to have fun.

...but not at someone else's expence who really dosen't deserve it.
 

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Now realize this, If you go out and do this you better believe it's a bigger pill to swallow when she does you the same way. The door swings both ways and when it slames on you, be prepared for the emotional rollercoster you're going to endure. You said a lot of guys hit on her when you're not there. If she was to find out, she's going to bring her guard down and all the other guys are going to start getting a little closer to dear old GF.

Think before you act, don't make the same mistake i did cause i lost a great girl.

P.S. I never believed the saying "it's a thin line between love and hate." I see that statement is a plague in my life right now.
 

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I have to agree with Faded Image and ThunderMaverick. If you want to be in an LTR; be in a LTR. If you want to explore other pastures; do that. Don't do both.

I also think Albion4's idea could be really entertaining for others.:D
 

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Well, I did end up sleeping with the 7.5 but we talked for a while and I made it clear that she wasn't the only person that I was talkin too.

She was cool and we actually swapped stories so all's well that ends well i guess.:rolleyes:

Me and my girl just kinda got into it cuz I accused her of being up to something. I know, I'm ashamed:(
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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You go rex!

Nice job turning the whole thing out and then making it seem like your girl was the one who was up to something.

As for all this crap I'm reading about STD's, your and her feelings getting hurt, Bad things could come around to you, etc etc. You are in college you need to go out and have fun (Safe fun I agree with that) while you can. I doubt very much that you'll in anyway devistate this girl so much that she'll never be the same for the rest of her life or anything like that.

If anything she'll learn some important lessons about guys and their nature. Later on in life she'll be with some guy who treates her far far worse then what you can do from your dorm room. Don't let anyone blow the whole subject out of proportion, because life's too short and your adventure will only be good if you're on the move.

Again due props to Rex for being alive and recognizing it.
 

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You go rex!

Nice job turning the whole thing out and then making it seem like your girl was the one who was up to something.


And what good is this going to do? Are more good things going to come out of lies and deciet? Can you tell me what good could come out of it? There will be a negative effect to a negative action. That the moral physics. I don't care what kind of belief you're into.


You are in college you need to go out and have fun (Safe fun I agree with that) while you can. I doubt very much that you'll in anyway devistate this girl so much that she'll never be the same for the rest of her life or anything like that.

Uh...we wern't condeming the fact he should be screwing around in college; fucking around is fun! But some of us just didn't approve of him having fun at someone else's expense. And as for her being devistated, i think it'll be just another lesson for her, but it still creates a negative perception of men in general for her. Ugh...I'm not even going to go into that. Too cosmic and long winded.


Don't let anyone blow the whole subject out of proportion, because life's too short and your adventure will only be good if you're on the move.

Again due props to Rex for being alive and recognizing it.


So you have to hurt someone to have an adventure? You have to hurt someone to be alive?

And really, I'm not trying to blow this out of proportion, it's just that you shouldn't underestimate or take advantage of another person's feelings ...no matter how strong or weak they are.

Rex, you're young and that's fine. I'm not trying to attack you or anything. I think there's just more to take into consideration besides how you want to feel. There are people involved, and everything you do has a price. I just want you to look at the other side of the coin. You have so many options and choices. Trust me. ^_~ It's your life.
 

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There will be a negative effect to a negative action. That the moral physics. I don't care what kind of belief you're into.
Typically what goes around comes around is a grossly over used cleche. I know quite a few very bad guys who, if negative action were to occur to them, would just simply be swallowed up by the earth. Conversely I know some very great guys who have never caught a break for all of that wholesomeness. Infact some of them are still on the way down.

You should never worry about that kind of thing, usually its the thought of better or worse things happening in our minds that creates a self fulfilling destiny.

But some of us just didn't approve of him having fun at someone else's expense. And as for her being devistated, i think it'll be just another lesson for her, but it still creates a negative perception of men in general for her. Ugh...I'm not even going to go into that. Too cosmic and long winded.
Like I said if it wasn't him It'd be the next guy. No one can p*ssy foot through life without picking up a few bruises and cuts, scars build character. And he's not really having fun at her expence becuse the likely hood of them marrying (Which in my mind is the only time monogomy is the only way) are slim to none... bad preception of men, she probably already has one of those. She has friends they talk and its not like he's the only guy she sees.

So you have to hurt someone to have an adventure? You have to hurt someone to be alive?
Well no one has really gotten hurt yet, and lets say she does find out. By the sounds of things from Rex's story IF she were to decide to go anywhere, she'd have a whole new set of suiters to help dry her tears. I also think you underestimate the toughness of the human spirit. I've cheated/been cheated on before and honestly, when you sit and THINK about the whole situation (I mean really mull it over), the whole thing just get's funny and really stupid and you'll wonder why you ever felt so hurt in the first place. People are not glass you can't just break them with one drop.

Half the time when girls that are really into you find out you've cheated on them will be more angry at the other girl anyway. But with their BF's they're willing to at least talk/ cry and get back together.

Regardless in this situation none of it matters because IT IS JUST COLLEGE. If you're taking what should be one of the most exciting times of your life too seriously, then your formula for life should definately be altered.
 

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Trite expressions left and right.

Kharma is a b*tch...The forbidden fruit is always the sweetest...ect, ect.

You did it. You'll probably do it again. And yes, maybe you're gf will do it to you. Que Sara!

I think monogomy is dead. People don't try anymore. Nobodies worried about anyone buy himself. Sad.

Bro...I hope the lay was great. But be a man about your actions. This great gal you're dating could be my sister or any of the other DJs' sister. Be real with yourself and her.

Yeah, you're young. Yeah, you want to experiment. Yeah, I'm all for that...if...everyone in the situation knows about it. It just seems bush league to cheat and lie to your girl about it.

Yeah, and Kharma always comes around. Women always have a way of finding out. And when that happens, don't come here with one-itis stories about how your ex-gf slept with one of the DJs from this board.:rolleyes:
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Ok, you obviously are missing the point of what we've been saying.
Not really I understand your POV, I just think your perspective is too confined and far to philosophical.
 

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Silly boy, I giggle at your expense. Big difference between a DJ and a Jerk. And as they say, once a jerk always a jerk. Do you like to beat on your women too?

-Al
 

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I still don't know what all of you guys are going on about, decit and honor

Have any of you read the actual story of the original Don Juan DeMarco? The original model for which this whole site is based off of?

If not you really should, You're all in for a BIG suprise about ethics and promises as well as the basis for a relationship.
 

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The definition of a DJ on the board is not meant to be a parallel to the actual Don Juan. Hell Moliere's Don Juan was actually an ironic comedy about questioning God's existance. The only parallel involved is that he was good with women. But, his exploits in life also awarded him a nice warm spot in hell. And that's what we're trying to get across to you. There's nothing wrong with being good with women, but don't abuse that gift cause it WILL come back to bite you in the arse.

-Al
 

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Silly boy, I giggle at your expense. Big difference between a DJ and a Jerk. And as they say, once a jerk always a jerk. Do you like to beat on your women too?
Ok Mr. lawyer, the slander isn't necessary.

However, I do feel understand what Albion and the (slightly more eloquent) ThunderMaverick are trying to say.

1) I never claimed to be a DJ, my success w/ women isn't based off any mad skillz or morals that anyone goes by

2) Yeah ThM, you're right you don't have to be in an LTR with a chick to have casual sex. I realized that I want a relation ship with my girl and variate my sex life at the same time so that I don't get bored.

3) Moon, you think like I do and many others that are too afraid to speak up.

The 7.5 called again (1:00A.M.) but I didn't pick up.

You bastards are making me feel guilty!:mad:
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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