"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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2 girls in one thread=wtf

wabu07

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ive been here a while and i understand most of what dj should do and what he shouldnt do but hey a little guidance here and then wouldnt hurt right? well i dont want to bytch and moan bout my problems so ill try to make it short.

Well there is this one girl in one of my classes who i know likes me and i like her too we hold hands in class she gave me a NICE massage today unexpectedley i joke around role play saying she is my wife and that we have 10 kids and stuff like that. well i walked her to to the exit near a stiarcase and she hugged and kissed me when she hugged me i lifted her up and spun her around she walked dizzy and walked into the door LOL (maybe i shouldnt have done that) well im planning to make a move there just triangular gaze and go in for the kiss or maybe call her one of these days ask her to the mall and chill and make a move there.

Now Girl#2 i just recently started talking to after spring break she found out we are from the same country and started flirting heavily. she has bf though who she meets in the staircase after class. i know she has a man and the dj guys in my brain are telling me stay away from her. but she comes to me in class and starts talking to me grabbing my hand holding it. biting me (****ing vampire). today i was massaging her and she said she felt guilty? i had no answer to that. then walking of class she hugs me and i hold her for a good minute or two she said i smleed good and i sed yeah i know :) i kissed her on the fore head i couldnt resist then she said she felt guilty and i just laffed and poked her went my way. I KNOW I SHOULDNT but you just cant help it you know? so maybe i should for the next 2 or 3 days ignore her and not show her any interest then ask her # and chill wit her on the weekend and make a move then. is there a way to get the girl and avoid a fight?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Michele l'Arcangelo

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they both seem pretty interested.

treat them like no other girl of course. you're doing great

girl #1, you seem like you have it under control... don't over do your inside-joke about your kids... it'll become CREEPY. you make it seem like you two are going "steady" (lame word)... but you aren't "steady"... she's being too easy... remember push-pull? do it! shes pushing, you pull a little bit... keep the good tension there... or it'll get boring.

girl #2, everyone loves what they can't get their hands on completely... i bet you like the fact she has a boyfriend, and that you can steal her from him anytime you wish, huh? BEWARE! she might be an attention wh0re... i can't tell without seeing her actions... does she seem like one? --- to me... biting is an attention wh0re action. but i never noticed handling hands a attention wh0re thing (most people won't hold hands if they don't like the person... or thats just me).

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i personally LOVE going after girls with boyfriends that i don't know, or like.

i wouldn't dare go for a girl that her boyfriend is my friend.

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you are just bragging, but YEAH get the numbers (even if i told you not to, you will anyway)...

avoiding a fight? you're asking for one... but it ALL depends on the guy, if he's jealous and a fighter at school... you might have a fight. if hes a pretty cool, calm person, he might not care, he can probably replace her. some guys jump to conclusions RIGHT when you start saying anything friendlier than "hi" to the girl (like every boyfriend of girls i've talked to... cause i'm the sh1t).
 

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yeah her friend calls her a flirt i dunno i guess ill just use her just as she is probably using me. lol actually although it seems like im bragging i just tend to overanalyze just like most people on this board. but thanks man its always good to hear advice from an experienced guy instead of immmature afcs at my school.
 

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*HAHAH UPDATE * Michele,l'Arcangelo today i kissed girl#1 on the lips we were walking with sum1 else and instead of going home she offered to walk me home then around the stair case she hugged me and i just went for it we both smiled and laughed and then i kissed her again. should i ihave tried to kissed her longer? i dunno i just felt giddy after kissing her i walked away.

now here is where i really do need help i have experienced in the past after a kiss a girl her IL will suddenly drop tremondously. how can i prevent that from happening and how do i follow up tom?
 

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escalation. Keep moving it forward. Invite her to your house or something and make a move. Kissing gets boring after a while. Always escalate.

IL can sometimes drop after the kiss because it's essentially putting your cards on the table and saying you want her. Once you've done this, the AWs will melt away. I doubt this will happen with this chick, she seems smitten with you. Keep working on it.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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