2 Dates = 0-2

[FoxHound20]

Sup guys,

Wow. I've had one hell of an AFC week! I've been having some trouble this past week with the girls that i've gone on dates with. On the two seperate dates this week, I've managed to end up in the friendship zone on both. This has left me totally second guessing my mindset and game plan. I went in confident, and left a chump on both occassions!

In hopes of correcting any errors, I'm going to post how I believe a true Don Juan should act on a date.. tell me if i'm missing anything:

1) Remain A Mystery

- This is where I believe my major fault lies. I found myself talking about personal things to the girl, in hopes of keeping a solid conversation running. I'd be asked about other girls and would find myself trying to prove to them that i'm a desirable male. (ie. this girl wants me, etc.) I wanted to prove that i'm desirable and that there is competition.


2) ****y and Funny

-I tried to maintain a solid ****y and funny attitude, however the chick would toss it right back in my face. Here's an example:

"Nice shirt, my seven year old cousin has the exact same one. (Grin at her)."

and then i'd get a reply like :

"You're just looking at my boobs you pervert. Haha just kidding."

Yet I know that she isn't kidding.. over the course of one date, the girl kept making subtle references to me being a pervert. I wasn't going to not touch the girl and come across as a non-sexual nice guy. This is the way of the chump, therefore I get chastised for acting even remotely sexual, without even over-doing it.

3) Kino

-Start off slow. Tap the arm to emphasize a point or to get her attention. Tap her in the leg when cracking a ****y and funny joke. Tickling and calling eachother nicknames. In this area I believe I had it all down pact.

4) No Desperation

-This is the one area that i'm totally unsure of. I'm not sure if my maintaining eye contact is a sign of desperation. My constant kino and touching may be a sign that i'm in desperate need of a relationship or a sign of sexual frustration. I'm totally unsure if I come across desperate or confident.

5) Maintain Solid Eye Contact

-Easy stuff. Maintain solid eye contact and make glances at lips and face, etc.

6) Be Decisive

-Guide her through doors and take the lead in decision making.



Both dates ended with a hug and nothing more.
This was one of the responses I got as the girl made her way out of my car.
"I had fun tonight, we should do this again sometime. Maybee we can invite xxxx or xxxxxx to come out with us."
Ouch!


All in all, I had high hopes and on both dates fell through the floor. I applied what I believed was the perfect mindset and just rolled with it. Now im left totally second guessing myself like a true Average Frustrated Chump. Can anyone perhaps point out anything that I've missed or messed up on?

 

[Beige]

2)

- Nice shirt, my seven year old cousin has the exact same one. (Grin at her).

- You're just looking at my boobs you pervert. Haha just kidding

- Yeah, I was, you caught me...... Can I touch?

 

[chlywly]

Sounds like you did alright to me, don't over analyse everything, more practice less theory,.

 

[Crusader]

At least your date showed up.

 

[Jay_VCU]

For real man, it sounds like you did a neg-hit, and she raised the stakes. You folded. It might have caught you by surprise and you backed down. I just did that yesterday. Anyway, it is really easy to say "I should have said this..." in hindsight.


Nice shirt, my seven year old cousin has the exact same one. (Grin at her).

You're just looking at my boobs you pervert. Haha just kidding.

Why do you always fall in love with perverts?

Also, you said both dates ended badly. I understand you didn't get a kiss-close, but try for a second date. If they say yes, they still may be interested. There is a thread with a list of great action dates. I remember pool and bowling.