"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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1st date kissing and the 3 date rule

Jean Valjean

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what is the 3 date rule? Can you elaborate. I find myself in these ongoing dates that resemble pals with not sex.

In the past I see that if I was kissing a girl hard on the first date things went well romantically and sexually but if no kissing took place we tended to stay distant and act like just pals

what is your take
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Teflon_Mcgee

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You do not date a girl until you've had sex with that girl (unless she's ultra-conservative/religous and you don't mind ending up in the FZ.)

And I whish I would have undertood this earlier in life (in fact I didn't understand until I met my wife.)

You meet a girl, you liker her, and you want to date her.
Okay, go out ONE time doing something simple and fun. Build the sexual tension (you may or may not want go for the kill on the first date depending on a lot of different factors.)

From that point on, keep contact low unless you know that contact will lead to sex (i.e. unless you're going to end up at a quiet secluded place where sex is likely, stay away.)

Once you have sex you can date the girl as much as you want.

Trust me, don't write this advice off. How this works is you immediatley set the frame in which you are a sexual being and your relationship is a sexual one.

When you date without sex (unless, possibly, you do everything but sex) you set the exact frame you talk about. Things become uncomfortable, boundries get drawn, and awkard friendly behaviour becomes expected.


There is no such thing as a three day rule. A three day rule implies you've been on three dates. It should be one initial date, and then only contact that has a good chance of leading to sex. And then continue dating.
 

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Always try to escalate to a next step - touching, kissing, ect. The girl will probably stop you at some point with a "not yet" rejection. I've done my share of mistakes and these are:
1. Waiting too much to make the first attempt
2. Skipping escalation steps (slapping her on the ass before she's comfortable with you hugging her? bad idea, believe me, no matter what DD says)
3. All kind of moronic things having nothing to do with the simple topic discussed here. :)

Anyway, all mistakes are recoverable as long as the girl's still willing to meet you and you don't repeat them again and again.
 

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Make an intimate move within the first three dates (kino escalation, kiss-close), or you'll be sending mixed signals to the girl that you're sexually-challenged and not into her.

Inadvertently, she may even lose interest in you as a potential mate.
 

Jean Valjean

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Allurre said:
Make an intimate move within the first three dates (kino escalation, kiss-close), or you'll be sending mixed signals to the girl that you're sexually-challenged and not into her.

Inadvertently, she may even lose interest in you as a potential mate.

you are right that is what happens or they tell you that they just want to be friends first so then its NEXT
 

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When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

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The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Teflon_Mcgee said:
You do not date a girl until you've had sex with that girl (unless she's ultra-conservative/religous and you don't mind ending up in the FZ.)

And I whish I would have undertood this earlier in life (in fact I didn't understand until I met my wife.)

You meet a girl, you liker her, and you want to date her.
Okay, go out ONE time doing something simple and fun. Build the sexual tension (you may or may not want go for the kill on the first date depending on a lot of different factors.)

From that point on, keep contact low unless you know that contact will lead to sex (i.e. unless you're going to end up at a quiet secluded place where sex is likely, stay away.)

Once you have sex you can date the girl as much as you want.

Trust me, don't write this advice off. How this works is you immediatley set the frame in which you are a sexual being and your relationship is a sexual one.

When you date without sex (unless, possibly, you do everything but sex) you set the exact frame you talk about. Things become uncomfortable, boundries get drawn, and awkard friendly behaviour becomes expected.


There is no such thing as a three day rule. A three day rule implies you've been on three dates. It should be one initial date, and then only contact that has a good chance of leading to sex. And then continue dating.
good post!


You are right Things become uncomfortable, boundries get drawn, and awkard friendly behaviour becomes expected. Then its time for NEXT
 
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