"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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So I'm seeing a 17 year old lately. Yea she's 17. 18 in two months. Whatever. I'd feel wierd if she was 18. Anyways, here's my point guys:

I'm 23, this chick is 17, smoking hot, nice body, etc. Since it's been a 6mo period since I got laid, I went for it. This chick is no joke 9.5 but I felt a little wierd at first.

Well, after seeing her for the last month or so, I've come to realize why people date younger. This girl adores me. She wants to go wherever I go. She makes up for anytime I'm remotely irritated. She makes sure not to piss me off. Long story short, I've got it good right now, and I don't care that I'm dating way younger than I should.

The truth is, i smoke pot, I drink, and I occasionally use substances. I used to be an opiate addict, so nowadays it's surprizing that I can just use marijuana and get by...but my point is that I am a terrible person by definition, and since I wrecked my car a few weeks ago I'm immobile.

Yea I own my own business, but my confidence level isn't exactly high, even though I am an AFC turned DJ since at least 5+ years ago...but the reality is I'm no catch and I know it.

But now I'm dating this chick who most would find to be very very attractive. And that's not entirely why I'm keeping her around, there are some other factors that I find to be attractive...but lets face it guys, we all know why were with a woman - because she's hot....at least at first thats why.

Lately things are good with her, I can get whatever I want, when I want. Her parents love me, so I'm home free as far as legal issues go. I'm just having fun with this girl i guess, but it's nice to know this girl is really afraid to piss me off now. Not because I'm abusive, or anything like that, though!

I guess my point is, to date younger. Not because you can, but because the women in our own age gap are unfortunately, looking for an older man. It's science, it's culture. But the reality is I am having a better time with this chick than I have with the last 10 girlfriends I had in the past.

Judge if you want, but if you had a 9.5 that worshipped the ground you walk on in your life, you'd probably be thinking otherwise....slap me if Im an idiot!
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I'd love to bang 17 year olds. My advice is, don't do anything to rock the boat while she's still underage, it is not lost on her that she can cry wolf and have you labeled a sex offender anytime she wants, and we know how quickly they can turn. But she's 18 in 2 months, so you're probably cool.
 

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downfallofdisbelief said:
The truth is, i smoke pot, I drink, and I occasionally use substances. I used to be an opiate addict, so nowadays it's surprizing that I can just use marijuana and get by...but my point is that I am a terrible person by definition
Bro, I F'n love you.

I guess my point is, to date younger. Not because you can, but because the women in our own age gap are unfortunately, looking for an older man. It's science, it's culture. But the reality is I am having a better time with this chick than I have with the last 10 girlfriends I had in the past.

Judge if you want, but if you had a 9.5 that worshipped the ground you walk on in your life, you'd probably be thinking otherwise....slap me if Im an idiot!
Ya see, the problem with younger girls is, they tend to be morons. And don't get me wrong, I'm happy that you're happy. Give me a beautiful girl who worships the ground I walk on, and I'll get bored after the 10th bang. It'll be like, "Okay I banged her 10 different ways. What's left."

I need to be challenged. I need a woman that can stimulate me mentally. Being worshiped works for you, and that's awesome. But I like a woman that tells me when I'm slacking, or when I'm not bringing my "A" game. I'm 28 now, but when I was 25 I dated a 19 year old. And I walked all over that girl like the naive moron that she was. Loved me, bought me stuff, blah blah....didn't matter. She put me on a pedestal and I got bored with it. Being worshiped is boring. I need an equal. King and queen, baby...ruling the world together.

So, beauty goes a long way. It does. But you're gonna need something to entertain you during the 85% of the time when she's not naked.
 
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Oh I hear ya man. The thing is, I was just screwing her at first but I've found that I can actually hold a relatively intelligent conversation with the girl. She rides motorcycles, so I can relate to her since I grew up riding dirtbikes as well, she listens to the same music blah blah blah.

But yea, It's not the same as dating an older chick, i can be honest about that for sure. I guess I am making some sacrifices, but they seem to be pretty minimal, since I can hang out with her and have fun without fukkking her.

There are some things that bother me, like how she's going to a local college, and for me it's been a long time since any of that crap.

I guess I'll find out what happens. So far I'm not bored, I'm still having a good time I suppose. And since her parents seem to be totally cool with it...(her mom comes into her room one night when I was there, and she finds 3 condom wrappers and just starts laughing and saying she should hide them better) so yea I'm not really worried about the whole jailbait concept...not yet at least.

I guess I just am intrigued that I am dating a really attractive girl without having to worry about anything. It's one of those things man, I dont know.
 

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Julius_Seizeher said:
I'd love to bang 17 year olds. My advice is, don't do anything to rock the boat while she's still underage, it is not lost on her that she can cry wolf and have you labeled a sex offender anytime she wants, and we know how quickly they can turn. But she's 18 in 2 months, so you're probably cool.
You guys are really disturbing me. Confusing the law with morality. Sad. Hell, I just checked. Age of Consent in Washington is 16 years of age. So, at least know the law!
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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I'm not sure why this thread was made but just to add some value...

Younger women have no frame whatsoever so they will get fully immersed into someone else's life rather easily. Generally I don't mess with chicks who are around 18-22 for preference reasons...

However the ONLY two college parties I've ever been too I rocked it out to the point where first party I had a 3 way makeout, many makeouts and should've pulled. It was turkey shoot since I understand these women haven't been exposed to such strong realities yet. (Similar to a big city player going to a suburb town)

The second party a chick accused me and my friend for being players since all we did was bring chicks upstairs go back down and get a new one. That night another young model about 20 was abit shy with all the social pressure we were getting due to how I dance.

Overall it's made me realize that as I grow up more it becomes much easier because I once ended up in a situation where I was speaking to this sexy grundgy-like model-looking chick who basically was down for anything...TURNED OUT SHE WAS 16 about to turn 17, I basically explained that I'm no longer interested although she was still down.

Just isn't for me, even if it was legal...I've rarely talked to chicks my age...
 

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I'm 18 and I went after a fifteen year old a few months back, I'd say the main cause is desperation....after getting very sporadic attention from beautiful girls your own age, and then having a younger girl horny as SH!T for you, it's kinda nice. But I wouldn't spend time chasing younger girls, I'd rather go after a girl my own age who is more mature, experienced, and more of a challenge.
 
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I hear you on the fact that they are not as experienced with the realities of life..

I just feel like it's a convenience thing now, and it's cool. No parental problems, and I dont mind the fact that she's 18 in two months lol. I can provide pics but what the he ll do you want me to post without it being semi illegal lol.

Has anyone else herer been in this situation? How did it end up?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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mustfirstregister said:
picture or never happened.
Lol chill out bro not everyone is comfortable with just posting pics of a chick they know on an internet dating forum (which like many other forums, does have its creepers)
 

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This is something I really need to watch out for sadly. I can agree with all the benefits of dating younger. They absolutely love you. You are in control. They make you their world. However, I've had a few close calls lately. So I've decided strictly 18+ from now on. You have it pretty good though. She'll be legal in two months. Even if they were to try to press charges she would be 18 by the time the trial started anyway. It's just not for me though. Anymore at least.
 
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my god Scars, i never even thought about the court wait factor! hahaha.

I'll keep the forum updated as things progress for the worst or best...I'm just really curious what could go wrong other than myself getting bored...which would not be too much of a hassle if you know what i mean.
 

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If it's illegal I wouldn't do it; there's way too many girls out there to be risking it for some 17 year old kid that you're only gonna end up f*cking.
 
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Well her parents have no problem with it...which is wierd...her mom came in and found a couple condom wrappers and just laughed at us..so yea i dont think thats going to be a problem. some of my friends are telling me to keep her happy for at least 2 months so that I'm in the clear haha.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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underage girls do not cry rape, because they do not want their parents/friends to know that they are sexually active - you have alot of chump-fear in you if u are afraid to **** a hb9.5 17 year old, don't be a pvssy and hit that pvssy before another player does!!!
 
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dude exactly. I really dont feel bad, i just wonder what kind of bullsh|t i should be awaiting. thats my main point i suppose...
 

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Congratulations man! You fuucked a "9.5" 17 year old girl. Now stop your bragging.
 
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