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144 Roses - Overkill or Intelligent?

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I've been largely indulged in a book I've been reading about a guy who gets a lot of his essentials out of dumpsters. The guy gets food, appliances, furniture, etc. It's a really fascinating read.

I just read the part on dumpster diving behind a flower shop. He once gave a woman in college 144 roses - a dozen dozen. He didn't pay 5hit for them. Now, at such a quantity, is it going to appear needy, ridiculous, overkill, expensive, or what? I honestly can't contemplate what a woman who recieves 144 roses would think.
 

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it depends on the situtaiton. if i was in good standing with my girl and i had the right frame, and i didn't have to pay for them sure why not.

if i had to go out and buy them though the thought process of doing 144 roses is too much. my wife would kill me if i bought her 144 roses, she can't possibly keep them all and in her mind that's what... that's a very good pair of high heels lol. she'd rather have the heels.
 

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Desdinova said:
He once gave a woman in college 144 roses - a dozen dozen. He didn't pay 5hit for them..
Maybe the reason he is getting flowers out of the dumpster is that he THOUGHT giving 144 flowers was a good idea to begin with.

There are better ways to spend precious time
 

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Burroughs said:
Maybe the reason he is getting flowers out of the dumpster is that he THOUGHT giving 144 flowers was a good idea to begin with.
According to the book, his parents were avid dumpster divers which is where he got it from. It's his lifestyle. He apparently has a good job, but utilizes what people throw away to maximize the money in his pocket.

I've been thinking about it and perhaps it would be a wonderful idea for a girl you're in a significant LTR with (but not living together). It would probably send a new girl running for the hills.
 

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Desdinova said:
According to the book, his parents were avid dumpster divers which is where he got it from. It's his lifestyle. He apparently has a good job, but utilizes what people throw away to maximize the money in his pocket.

I've been thinking about it and perhaps it would be a wonderful idea for a girl you're in a significant LTR with (but not living together). It would probably send a new girl running for the hills.
now that i think about it i've thrown away some pretty niceh ****. perfeclty good clothes that are just too big for me now that i'm too lazy to take to goodwill. some of my kid's toys he doesn't play with anymore. a sportsjacket that i never wear, a gamecube lol with about 10 games after i didnt' get a bite on craigslist for them, one day about 2 years ago i had went like 2 months without eating a peice of sweets and i went on a sweet tooth binge at the grocery store and bought like 100 dollars worth of pure crap lol. i ate like 10 dollars worth of it, my stomach started to hurt nad put the rest of it in a trash bag, not even opened and just threw it in the trash can. i've thrown whole pizza's in the trash can. i threw a laptop.. that has a bad monitor but still the laptop itself works, in the trash can. damn. that really doesn't sound like a bad idea
 

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Nothing wrong with buying your girlfriend or wife 144 roses assuming you have the scratch.

To impress a new girl...nah. And trash roses? Fvck outta here.
 

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Dear Des,
As Mother would say,it's the thought that counts....Clever too,maybe when her mates put him down for being poor,she can say,"Well do your Boy Friends ever buy you a gross of Red Roses?".
 

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backbreaker said:
it depends on the situtaiton. if i was in good standing with my girl and i had the right frame, and i didn't have to pay for them sure why not.

if i had to go out and buy them though the thought process of doing 144 roses is too much. my wife would kill me if i bought her 144 roses, she can't possibly keep them all and in her mind that's what... that's a very good pair of high heels lol. she'd rather have the heels.

I thought you are rich? All those roses you could get for under 200 bucks.
 

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144 roses? If they are in a display, ready to go, sitting alongside the dumpster, maybe. If I were to bring these home to my wife, she would be pizzed cause I spent my money on that, instead of nice shoes, etc. If you tell them you found them sitting somewhere, grabbed them thinking of her, she might be happy. She'd have to be worth the trouble though :)
 

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That's a truckload of roses. I overheard my mum b1tching to her feminist friends one time about how she could count on her fingers how many times in her 30+ years with my dad that he bought her flowers. Her friends (all divorced or about to, mind you) all agreed that my dad is a Very Bad Man. Yet mum was always moved to tears on those rare occasions dad was in the mood to buy her flowers.
 

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