11 months for panty removal

[Metro3pilot]

This is just my opinion and may go against some of what other posters advise but here goes .....

After 11 months I got the cookie .....

these girls I converted, I noticed that after a FZ or something I became scared of them or the rejection should I say .... so I became real chumpish, put her on a pedestal acting as if she was above me ....would not make a move .....

here's my tips ... to convert a FZ

1. Spin plates, you have to be chasin them ... no options = desperation
2. Don't care if you get her or not .....
3. Keep being yourself ...don't sell out and don't lose them nads
4. Make a move when the opportunity comes up ...
5. Don't be afraid to show anger
6. Give her space and time to miss you
7. Don't care so much about the outcome
8. Find something to distract you
9. Basicly just don't take no for an answer and don't give up



my opinion is ..

you did not get friendzoned because she was not initialy attracted to you ... you get friendzoned because you did not have the balls to make the move when she left the net open ......

ROCK ON :rockon:

 

[lookyoung]

I agree with what you have to say for the most part but I don't agree with.

5. Don't to be afraid to show anger.- Be calm cool and collective with woman. If you show anger this makes you look weak. Be impartial to anything negative that comes up in a relationship. (unless its your wife... If she cheated on you... Then you have a right to become very angry.


About friendzone. - Guys usually get friend zoned because they misread the girls signals. Or because they get clingy and act like AFC'S.


All around you bring up some good points in this thread.

 

[d9930380]

You get friendzoned when the girl NEVER saw you in that way to begin with as you became friends with her in a non-sexual way.

Or

When the time came to make a sexual move you hesitated and she therefore lost respect for you.

I remember someone saying "There's a time with a girl when if you don't **** her then you never will".

Damn it's happened to me soooo many times and when they're hot and you realise you could have had it and the only person to blame is you then it's so frustrating. What you can't do is try to hang around her hoping the opportunity will present it's self again. That's the zone.

 

[Mr.Positive]

Way tooo much effort, IMO..I've been friendzoned too many times to care about it anymore. I now focus on the women that show me that they have a high IL in me. If I get in the zone, her loss. I'm moving on.

There is too many women out there that are looking for decent guys. Focus on IL. She has to pass that test for me to spend my time with her.

 

[jophil28]

I like the comment above by Mr Positive, " She has to PASS that test for me to spend time with her."
Excellent !
We need to TEST women much more than we do. Women test us unmercifully (mostly just to get us to jump thru hoops or for the effect that faked-up dramatics provides her)

I have a rule these days - I do not waste time with a woman who shows a low IL in me. How do you test this. Ignore her,be cool, date other women walk away, do ****y/ funny. All these strategies give you glimpses into her "attraction profile" .
These "tests" will eventually reveal whether she likes you a LOT or she is lukewarm or she is not interested,or using you for attention..
Some women just do NOT like guys like you- maybe they are scared of being big girls in an big relationship. Maybe they are into power games with chumps. WHo cares. What matters is that you ultimately connect with a woman(women ) who FIT your requirements and meet your standards.
I will say that another way. YOU need to filter them out and NOT get caught up in the old game of trying to get them to be attracted to you.

I 'audition' women most every day and most fail the first interview.
Remember this is like advertising for an employee - and you are the CEO of your own company. You would not give a good job to the first female who expressed some superficial interest in your business,would you?
There is a shortage of single and available MEN.. Make this reality work for you. Be hard to get and aloof. Be discerning and choose women who are GOOD to you and GOOD for you. Remember that you also can fire their AZZ at the first drama... And be prepared to do just that .
Take it from an old warhorse. Bad women NEVER get better, they get worse over time..
Good women get better through firmness and guidance.

 

[penkitten]

were these panties shoved up someone a$$?

 

[ducaro]

I like the comment above by Mr Positive, " She has to PASS that test for me to spend time with her."
Excellent !
We need to TEST women much more than we do. Women test us unmercifully (mostly just to get us to jump thru hoops or for the effect that faked-up dramatics provides her)

I have a rule these days - I do not waste time with a woman who shows a low IL in me. How do you test this. Ignore her,be cool, date other women walk away, do ****y/ funny. All these strategies give you glimpses into her "attraction profile" .
These "tests" will eventually reveal whether she likes you a LOT or she is lukewarm or she is not interested,or using you for attention..
Some women just do NOT like guys like you- maybe they are scared of being big girls in an big relationship. Maybe they are into power games with chumps. WHo cares. What matters is that you ultimately connect with a woman(women ) who FIT your requirements and meet your standards.
I will say that another way. YOU need to filter them out and NOT get caught up in the old game of trying to get them to be attracted to you.

I 'audition' women most every day and most fail the first interview.
Remember this is like advertising for an employee - and you are the CEO of your own company. You would not give a good job to the first female who expressed some superficial interest in your business,would you?
There is a shortage of single and available MEN.. Make this reality work for you. Be hard to get and aloof. Be discerning and choose women who are GOOD to you and GOOD for you. Remember that you also can fire their AZZ at the first drama... And be prepared to do just that .
Take it from an old warhorse. Bad women NEVER get better, they get worse over time..
Good women get better through firmness and guidance.

nice stuff! years of wisdom is talking for itself! i would definitely buy your stuff!:yes:

 

[Mr.Positive]

Some women just do NOT like guys like you- maybe they are scared of being big girls in an big relationship. Maybe they are into power games with chumps. WHo cares. What matters is that you ultimately connect with a woman(women ) who FIT your requirements and meet your standards. I will say that another way. YOU need to filter them out and NOT get caught up in the old game of trying to get them to be attracted to you.

This...is something that took me a long time to figure out. Not every girl needs to like you. "Who cares" is right!!

All to often, we focus on getting the girl to like us with all these seduction tricks.

While they work, (and get us laid)..in all honesty, most of the girls are not even worth our time.

We should be definitely testing women a lot lot more, spinning more plates, and focusing our time on the quality ones..that pass our tests!!

Thanks Jophil! Your post is the exact mindset that I'm trying to achieve, and getting there..slowly.