"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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100 Greatest Songs of the Modern Era

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Not really my thing. Also, a lack of Katatonia, who blow each and every band on that list clear out of the water, FTL.
 

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Props for putting that all together, but that "modern era" rock is way too mellow for a guy like me. As far as rock goes, the mars volta owns all those rockers any day in creativity and delivery.
 

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I'm really enjoying this list. Thank you for investing so much time into this, mad props! You did/do a great job.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I'd like to bump this up a bit. I was introduced to some of my favorite bands through this thread.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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The Modern Era?

Is this post Twilight era or when musicians actually played their instruments without Pro-Tools "tweaking" them?

I've tried to listen to this sh!t they call "music" and I don't find it emotional at all.

I grew up on Boston, The Doors, Zeppelin, Sabbath, .38 Special, Ricky Skaggs, Elvis Presley, Miles Davis, and Tool.

What the fvck is a Flyleaf? It's noise. You younger guys will say, "This old cat don't be knowin' what our generation be standing for." and you'd be half right.

I have a 16 year old daughter who's plugged into this generation's music. The difference between the music of Generation X and Generation A (for Apathy) is this: struggle.

The musicians I grew up admiring struggled to make it. They had to prove themselves to get studio time. They didn't have an iPad to record their noise.
 

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There's so little creativity in music today. Every decade dating back to the 40s had distinct breakthroughs and new styles, excluding 2000-2019, where music is just so bland and sterile. Everything these days is just formulaic and more about marketing than about the melody or musical merit.

My favourite era was the early 90s when you had underground musicians experimenting with new styles and getting airtime. You had so many forms of dance music, such as Drum and Bass, Techno. Trance, Eurodance and more, then you had rock styles like Grunge and Brit Pop emerging too. Sure, it had its share of mainstream crap, but there was enough variation to keep everyone happy and so many different music scenes going on whether you were a rocker, raver or even a teeny bopper.
 

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I was born in '87 so I missed out the bulk of the '80s music that is now most thought of when someone says 'eighties'. People think Duran Duran, Spandau Ballet etc.

90s music that I grew up with I only liked for the nostalgia and memories they bring back, not as music, and I think music in the charts has been on a downward slope since 2000.

But in recent years my niche is funk and soul from the 80s and some that spilled over into the early 90s like New Jack Swing; Alexander O'Neal, Kool and the Gang, EW&F (okay they were 70s also) and even obscurer artists like Johnny Gill, Guy, Mint Condition... Some songs of this genre was bigger elsewhere, where most of it came from, but some were sizeable hits in the UK. For instance that group 'The Limit' from Holland IMO was one of the best and had many great songs but only 'Say Yeah' made it to the UK chart.

Interestingly in France recently, there has apparently been a resurgence of 80s-style funk.

Would some of this be liked today? A majority of the UK chart is r'n'b, but not the good kind. Not so many guitar bands it seems.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Jariel said:
My favourite era was the early 90s when you had underground musicians experimenting with new styles and getting airtime. You had so many forms of dance music, such as Drum and Bass, Techno. Trance, Eurodance and more, then you had rock styles like Grunge and Brit Pop emerging too.
The late 80s to early 90s was such a high point in music. I could listen to a pop station and actually not mind it, hearing things like Roxette, Crash Test Dummies, Annie Lennox, and even Madonna didn't suck too badly back then. Rap music was fairly new, fresh, and fun, and it eventually split off into dance/techno. Rock music went through a huge transition when Nirvana made bands like Guns N' Roses extinct. Unfortunately, techno morphed and took over pop music, and Alternative/Grunge gave birth to a bunch of lame uncreative crap.

There are quite a few good bands out there now, but you really have to dig for them since you're not going to find them on mainstream radio. I've been enjoying the likes of Sonata Arctica, Lordi, and Nightwish to name a few. Some of the more classic bands are still putting out good albums like AC/DC, The Cars, and Iron Maiden. I've also been looking for bands that never made it truly big like The Replacements, The Candyskins, and Semisonic.

There's lots of great music out there to be discovered if you take the time to look for it.
 

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Desdinova said:
There's lots of great music out there to be discovered if you take the time to look for it.
All I need to do is set my direction towards Maynard Keenan, Adam Jones, Justin Chancellor, and Danny Carey.

That's where you'll find progression and true genius in music. Anything from Tool is begging to shred your consciousness away from your "reality".

Listen to Volto, Puscifer, or A Perfect Circle for less transcendental music, but nonetheless emotional and thought-provoking.
 

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Jariel said:
There's so little creativity in music today. Every decade dating back to the 40s had distinct breakthroughs and new styles, excluding 2000-2019, where music is just so bland and sterile. Everything these days is just formulaic and more about marketing than about the melody or musical merit.

My favourite era was the early 90s when you had underground musicians experimenting with new styles and getting airtime. You had so many forms of dance music, such as Drum and Bass, Techno. Trance, Eurodance and more, then you had rock styles like Grunge and Brit Pop emerging too. Sure, it had its share of mainstream crap, but there was enough variation to keep everyone happy and so many different music scenes going on whether you were a rocker, raver or even a teeny bopper.
Creative music is becoming distinctly harder to find, but that doesn't mean it isn't out there. Green Day's American Idiot was a total throwback to rock operas of the past; Tommy, Sgt. Pepper, Dark Side of the Moon etc.....

Music has to be about marketing if it wants to compete with other music; also yeah there's a lot of electronics going on, doesn't mean it bad--it's pretty similar to the 80's if you ask me, in the same way that 70's music was a throwback to the fifties

Also I'm a 90's kid too :D I grew up on Nirvana, even though they weren't around before I was old enough to remember
 
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