10 Post limit

[Cerwin Vega]

Please remove.

 

[Peaks&Valleys]

Many have tried.

Honestly, just go find another forum. I've been meaning to tell Ol Rex the same thing. You can't change this one. You can't BUILD a forum You just have to take it for what it is.

There have been so many ideas I've seen presented to this forum, including a few by myself. And most of the times the MODS don't even acknowledge them, and when they do it's the same old tired PC responses.

 

[logicallefty]

The 10 post limit has annoyed me before a couple of times, but logically I think it's reasonable to have.. Why?

- I read one of the mods not too long ago say "quality over quantity". I agree

- Shouldn't we be out doing other things besides SS for at least SOME of our day?

- Gives others a chance to reply before one person can just totally take over a conversation

I would support upping it to maybe 15 posts, but I think some type of limit at that or not much more is a good thing.

 

[TheVirtualMind]

Please remove.

Man, what a FASCINATING, LOGICAL, WELL THOUGHT OUT reason why we should remove it!

Many have tried.

Honestly, just go find another forum. I've been meaning to tell Ol Rex the same thing. You can't change this one. You can't BUILD a forum You just have to take it for what it is.

There have been so many ideas I've seen presented to this forum, including a few by myself. And most of the times the MODS don't even acknowledge them, and when they do it's the same old tired PC responses.

Yeah, because we certainly pulled that "Wealth and Success" forum out of our @$$

The 10 post limit has annoyed me before a couple of times, but logically I think it's reasonable to have.. Why?

- I read one of the mods not too long ago say "quality over quantity". I agree

- Shouldn't we be out doing other things besides SS for at least SOME of our day?

- Gives others a chance to reply before one person can just totally take over a conversation

I would support upping it to maybe 15 posts, but I think some type of limit at that or not much more is a good thing.

I agree. 10 posts, or even 15, isn't too bad. But people rarely have more than 4 or 5 QUALITY thoughts/ideas a day, let alone that many involving one subject. Make the most of your posts, instead of 9 posts saying "I agree" and 1 saying "why do I only have 1 more post left for today? Teh modz suk!"

 

[Peaks&Valleys]

But people rarely have more than 4 or 5 QUALITY thoughts/ideas a day, let alone that many involving one subject.

Says who?

Why don't you guys try it for a week?

And, when some kj douchbag troll from Bumfvcked Egypt starts trolling the $hit out of this forum, how about just banning him rather than punishing the rest of the forum?

"But we can't catch everyone!! Anyone can sign up!!"

Well, holey $hit, how do you guys solve problems in the real world?? Just put a post limit on the NOOBS. And don't let them start new threads for a week, or limit them to one forum. Lots of solutions to that one.

Let me know if you have any other questions or concerns. Thanks.

 

[dasein]

And, when some kj douchbag troll from Bumfvcked Egypt starts trolling the $hit out of this forum, how about just banning him rather than punishing the rest of the forum?

Because the types that do that are expert at flying just within the rules while they fill thread after thread with one liner garbage posts that may not rise to the level of actual trolling.

 

[Peaks&Valleys]

I personally would like to see the limit withheld. Maybe 15 posts per day MAX.

In my first few years of posting here they allowed you to post unlimited and in my opinion that just allowed conversations to too often disintegrate into flaming and trolling.

Not saying all members would abuse the privilege of posting unlimited but it takes only a few bad apples to ruin it for everybody.

Respect Espi.

but it takes only a few bad apples to ruin it for everybody.
^this is my point though. Fvck those bad apples, they should be handled. We're here to discuss(argue) ideas and solutions for us men. If said bad apples are causing problems, that's not our problem, that's SS's problem.

Because the types that do that are expert at flying just within the rules while they fill thread after thread with one liner garbage posts that may not rise to the level of actual trolling.

Well, considering SS doesn't have a constitution to deal with, they can pretty much establish their own type of justice. One week bans. Lifetime bans. Warnings. Whatever. The point is, after a poster has passed the probationary period, if one of them is getting out of hand, then simply, a MOD will put said poster in their place. Easy.

What's so hard about that? Swift justice.

The thing about the whole PHM ordeal was that no one was ready for it. NO ONE. One minute he's getting "You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to PlayHer Man again" posts from the MODS, and the next minute he's banned.

WTF is that???

How to Mind Fvck a Forum 101.

"well, he was getting PM'd $hit."

Okay. Maybe he was getting all these "warning messages" in his PM box. Did anyone else see those besides PHM and the MODS?

Okay, so be it. Why can't the MODS just say it on the thread??

"PHM, you know, this is not what this forum is about. We appreciate your message here, but the way it's stated isn't going to work here on this forum"

A few of those, and everyone will be on board.

Simple $hit.

Simple.

 

[TheVirtualMind]

Says who?

Why don't you guys try it for a week?

And, when some kj douchbag troll from Bumfvcked Egypt starts trolling the $hit out of this forum, how about just banning him rather than punishing the rest of the forum?

"But we can't catch everyone!! Anyone can sign up!!"

Well, holey $hit, how do you guys solve problems in the real world?? Just put a post limit on the NOOBS. And don't let them start new threads for a week, or limit them to one forum. Lots of solutions to that one.

Let me know if you have any other questions or concerns. Thanks.

I'd love to test that "10 post a day" limit, but I'm not gonna increase my post count for the hell of it. Try doing things that don't involve this forum. It's amazing how much better people's topics are when they actually have real world experience.

I never had any questions or concerns in the first place, but thank you for your attempt at customer service.

I personally would like to see the limit withheld. Maybe 15 posts per day MAX.

In my first few years of posting here they allowed you to post unlimited and in my opinion that just allowed conversations to too often disintegrate into flaming and trolling.

Not saying all members would abuse the privilege of posting unlimited but it takes only a few bad apples to ruin it for everybody.

Exactly.

Because the types that do that are expert at flying just within the rules while they fill thread after thread with one liner garbage posts that may not rise to the level of actual trolling.

Yes, then there are the others that just copy and paste stuff that could pass for a college thesis.

Respect Espi.

but it takes only a few bad apples to ruin it for everybody.
^this is my point though. Fvck those bad apples, they should be handled. We're here to discuss(argue) ideas and solutions for us men. If said bad apples are causing problems, that's not our problem, that's SS's problem.

Well, considering SS doesn't have a constitution to deal with, they can pretty much establish their own type of justice. One week bans. Lifetime bans. Warnings. Whatever. The point is, after a poster has passed the probationary period, if one of them is getting out of hand, then simply, a MOD will put said poster in their place. Easy.

What's so hard about that? Swift justice.

The thing about the whole PHM ordeal was that no one was ready for it. NO ONE. One minute he's getting "You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to PlayHer Man again" posts from the MODS, and the next minute he's banned.

WTF is that???

How to Pi$$ Off a Forum 101.

"well, he was getting PM'd $hit."

Okay. Maybe he was getting all these "warning messages" in his PM box. Did anyone else see those besides PHM and the MODS?

Okay, so be it. Why can't the MODS just say it on the thread??

"PHM, you know, this is not what this forum is about. We appreciate your message here, but the way it's stated isn't going to work here on this forum"

A few of those, and everyone will be on board.

Simple $hit.

Simple.

Again with the PHM stuff. Here is a suggestion. Staying out of things you don't know anything about. Simple $hit. Simple.

Also, just so everyone can be clear on this, the 10 post a day limit was also something that was suggested by members.

If it wasn't for suggestions from members, there would be none of the following:

- New color schemes for the site
- No High School Forum
- No Mature Man/Married Forum
- No Wealth and Success Forum
- No posting limit
- No Success Stories Forum (which was ignored by the same posters shortly after)
- No Unusual Techniques in Seduction Forum (same fate as Success Stories)
- No forum upgrade (which made it a whole lot more stable)
- No verification when you register
- No Original Don Juan Bible (and all the incarnations since)
- No Reputation bar

There is about a dozen more things that I don't remember right now. This is a site that has, and does, take members ideas into consideration. However, everyone always thinks they have the biggest, greatest idea ever and it's original. Sometimes they are right. Most of the time, they aren't, then get upset when it's not implemented.

 

[Cerwin Vega]

@TheVirtualMind, I respect your work and what you're saying, but please be a bit more open to ideas:

How about a "Posts left for today" counter when attempting to post something? I often write a screen long post only to discover I have passed the limit and I can't post it, and then I forget about it.

How about rising/lowering the limit using Reputation? This will encourage users to write high quality posts.

How about a no post-count forum? Not a spam forum, just a place for people to vent.

 

[BeDJ]

I just repped 5 dudes so I can pass rep to the person I wanted to. How many more do I need to do that sh!t to????

Next 5 people who respond (I hope) will get reps from me. In order to rep one dude that I truly want to.

 

[Jaylan]

I dont think the 10 post limit is too bad. 15 might be better though.

That said, go over to different popular dating advice or relationship advice forums. See what happens when there's no posting limit. Threads can sometimes drag on into an endless circular debate between just a few people.

Having 10 posts makes it so that you post better stuff. There are less one or two line responses...and there are more thought-out responses.

 

[dasein]

The point is, after a poster has passed the probationary period, if one of them is getting out of hand, then simply, a MOD will put said poster in their place. Easy.
What's so hard about that? Swift justice.

You aren't addressing my point. Go check out forums where there is no post limit, or comment pages on websites, blogs, youtube. What you will find is they attract lots of a certain kind of poster who doesn't add any substance to threads, but is not technically breaking any rules. Threads become bloated and extremely repetitive. Useful information and posts get swamped and crowded out. IMO as someone who has been on net forums back to the usenet and BBS days, this forum is a breath of fresh air in that respect, and I hope it stays that way.

Moreover, why should mods have to be tasked with getting involved in making gray area judgment calls? Enforcing simple, clearcut forum rules, getting rid of obvious spam and trolls for example, is enough to expect of people who aren't paid and have their own lives to manage. "Don't post too much" is not a simple, clear forum rule, and would require lots of unnecessary mod interaction and time behind the scenes to interpret and enforce. What's easy is the post limit we have now. Why would anyone want or need to post more? Places like this should be the bird feeder, not the nest.

 

[Maximus Rex]

Allen Isn't Going to Remove the 10 Post Ban

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=144511

Attention Admin: Your 10-Post Rule Sucks


http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=211152

The Official So Suave Members Petition to Lift the Profanity Ban and Posting Limit

The ban isn't going anywhere, however our friends did give the much needed "Wealth and Success," forum.

 

[Peaks&Valleys]

@TheVirtualMind, I respect your work and what you're saying, but please be a bit more open to ideas:

How about a "Posts left for today" counter when attempting to post something? I often write a screen long post only to discover I have passed the limit and I can't post it, and then I forget about it.

How about rising/lowering the limit using Reputation? This will encourage users to write high quality posts.

How about a no post-count forum? Not a spam forum, just a place for people to vent.

Great ideas my man.

I had this one: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=212164
That was never addressed. At the time, I thought it was one way to increase the post limit (by two). All while giving long standing members an area of their own to post. (only two posts a day so they'd still post in the rest of the forum)

You aren't addressing my point. Go check out forums where there is no post limit, or comment pages on websites, blogs, youtube. What you will find is they attract lots of a certain kind of poster who doesn't add any substance to threads, but is not technically breaking any rules.

I'm on another forum where there is not a post limit. And I'm not referring to YOUTUBE, this particular forum is about seduction. And, TBH, the posts over there are as high quality as I've ever seen. The difference is, when someone starts posting gerble garble, the MODS are on that $hit immediately. No fvcking around over there. And, when someone does start fvcking around, they handle it publicly so everyone can see and no one is in the dark. If someone gets banned, they make an announcement and tell the posters WHY person got banned, and for how long, or if it's permanent. Sometimes they'll ban someone but allow them to come back with another username, as some type of warning. But if poster goes back to his old ways, then he will get a permanent ban of his IP address. Main difference though, EVERYONE is aware of what's going on. Furthermore, if posters want to talk about said poster, MODS don't care. Just as long as they're not attacking anyone in the process. This is a healthy way to deal with things IMO.

Moreover, why should mods have to be tasked with getting involved in making gray area judgment calls?

Isn't that what MODS do?

Enforcing simple, clearcut forum rules, getting rid of obvious spam and trolls for example, is enough to expect of people who aren't paid and have their own lives to manage.

Well, honestly, why is someone a MOD then? There was one MOD on here who hadn't posted for 2 years. If the members are posting then why can't the MODS? Serious question.

"Don't post too much" is not a simple, clear forum rule, and would require lots of unnecessary mod interaction and time behind the scenes to interpret and enforce. What's easy is the post limit we have now. Why would anyone want or need to post more? Places like this should be the bird feeder, not the nest.

It's not "Don't post too much", it's "Don't post redundant KJ crap".





http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2124223&postcount=10

You don't have to confine yourselves to just SoSuave, in fact I encourage you to branch out and visit other forums and read new material. Then come back and tell us what worked and what didn't.

I took this^ MODS advice. Now I'm just bringing back what works on another forum. A possible solution, if you will, to the 10 post limit "issue" that keeps popping up.

Edit for clarification

 

[asa_don]

i think the 10 post limit is fine, i hope it stays, there should be no need for you go over your 10 post limit anyway, go out, get off your computer, do something else instead

i was in a couple of forums where they had no limit at all, posters who had nothing better to do, but to sit on their ass all day, took over almost every single thread adding their own b.s. opinions on everything, also had useless convos with other bored posters, that took away everything from the place.

the way i see it you have a posting privilege with 10, that encourages posters to use their posts wisely to post quality stuff instead of one or two word crap posts that you will get if there is no limit.

there's also a few annoying posters in here, reading their 10 is enough, nobody wants to read endless amounts of their posts of no substance or more of their bad advice.


if you're so worked up over a 10 post limit you have no life.

Nah, I'd say if you need SoSuave, or any other site for that matter, to control your internet usage, then you have no life. However if you like to learn and post advice or ask questions, and possibly get into one or more conversations in a day that would take more than 10 posts.....then I feel you are just trying to better yourself and/or gain knowledge. Nothing wrong with that IMO.

you don't understand, the site owner has the 10 limit post so people don't have a bunch of conversations, keep posting advice.

i would not want to see someone posting in over 30 threads giving out bad advice, having a bunch of conversations, that's why there is a limit.

instead of posting giving advice, use your own advice to go out and meet women

 

[Peaks&Valleys]

if you're so worked up over a 10 post limit you have no life.

Nah, I'd say if you need SoSuave, or any other site for that matter, to control your internet usage, then you have no life. However if you like to learn and post advice or ask questions, and possibly get into one or more conversations in a day that would take more than 10 posts.....then I feel you are just trying to better yourself and/or gain knowledge. Nothing wrong with that IMO.

 

[Peaks&Valleys]

you don't understand, the site owner has the 10 limit post so people don't have a bunch of conversations, keep posting advice.

I've seen that propoganda plenty on this site. I understand your point. I don't think you understand mine, but since you're actually responding in this thread, I will enlighten you: The 10 post limit was implemented as a way to let ANY poster post. If it's only 10 posts then who gives a fvck. Instead of regulating the posts/posters they can sit back and let the 10 post limit do the regulating.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=218416 "Quality"

instead of posting giving advice, use your own advice to go out and meet women

Great suggestion, never thought about that.<----sarcasm, but thanks for the monumental idea.


BTW: It took me a while to see your response, or else I would have responded earlier. Why didn't you make a new post instead of editing your old one?

 

[Peaks&Valleys]

Bump for responses.