10 Most Dangerous Mistakes

[zekko]

I was reading one of this week's "featured articles" - The 10 Most Dangerous Mistakes You Probably Make with Women. You can find it at the top of the page. I thought I would comment on it, just for fun.

MISTAKE #1: Being Too Much of a "Nice Guy"Have you ever noticed that the really attractive women never seem to be attracted to "nice" guys?

Actually, I've never noticed this at all. I know plenty of nice guys who are with gorgeous women. Women are rarely attracted to wimpy guys though.

I do agree with this:
"Being nice doesn’t make a woman FEEL that powerful ATTRACTION.
And being NICE doesn’t make a woman CHOOSE you."

MISTAKE #2: Trying to "Convince Her to Like You"What do most guys do when they meet a woman that they REALLY like... but she’s just not interested?

Right! They try to "convince" the woman to feel differently.

Well, I have news for you... YOU WILL NEVER CHANGE HOW A WOMAN "FEELS" WHEN IT COMES TO ATTRACTION!

Never, ever, EVER.

Guess there's no reason to try and attract her with jerk game then.

MISTAKE #3: Looking to Her for Approval or Permission

I agree this is a horrible idea.
I also like that he has the courage to admit this:

"You don’t have to treat women BADLY for them to like you."

MISTAKE #4: Trying to "Buy" Her Affection with Food and GiftsHow many times have you taken a woman out to a nice dinner, bought her gifts and flowers, and had her REJECT you for someone who didn’t treat her even HALF as well as you did?

If you’re like me, then you’ve had it happen a LOT.

This guy doesn't learn very quickly, does he?

MISTAKE #5: Sharing "How You Feel" Too Early in the Relationship

I agree this is a horrible idea.

I also like that he points out that very attractive women have tons of options. That old saying that the prettiest girls sit home because guys are too afraid to ask them out is frigging hogwash.

MISTAKE #6: Not "Getting" How Attraction Works for WomenWomen are VERY different from men when it comes to ATTRACTION.

I agree but this is starting to sound like a commercial here.

MISTAKE #7: Thinking That It Takes Money and LooksOne of the most common mistakes that guys make is giving up before they’ve even gotten started... because they think that attractive women are only interested in men who have looks and money... or guys who are a certain height... or guys who are a certain age.

Yep, definitely starting to sound like a commercial.

Charisma and personality can take you a long way though.
Thing is, if a guy has that much charisma and personality, why doesn't he use it to get himself a better job?

MISTAKE #8: Giving Away All of Your Power to Women

Agreed. Horrible idea.

MISTAKE #9: Not Knowing EXACTLY What to Do in Each Type of Situation I know, it might be hard to believe. But for example, if you’re out on a date with a woman, and you want to kiss her, she knows it.

And if you don’t know exactly what to do and exactly HOW to kiss her, and you just sit there looking at her and getting nervous, she won’t help!

I think women are a little more forgiving than this guy makes them out to be, but you can definitely blow it by not knowing what to do or not having the confidence to pull it off. Knowing what to do can only help, right?

MISTAKE #10: Not Getting HELP

Send your money to David DeAngelo, guys.

 

[MisterD]

I agree with some, but like you said, the nice guy thing is misunderstood. "Nice guy" by definition (to me) is a beta afc that lets people take advantage of him, is shy, scared to be sexual around women/make it known he wants to bang them. Thinks he can win them over by being their emotional tampon. But you can be alpha and be nice; just have backbone and don't let people walk all over you.

 

[pipe007]

Let him be. The guy is successful for a reason .u can get his stuff online for free ... he a tually makes a lot of sense.. his ideas helped my game tremendously
.. and yes u dont need looks or millions... just a strong confident fearless funny character

 

[pipe007]

Let him be. The guy is successful for a reason .u can get his stuff online for free ... he a tually makes a lot of sense.. his ideas helped my game tremendously
.. and yes u dont need looks or millions... just a strong confident fearless funny character

 

[pipe007]

Let him be. The guy is successful for a reason .u can get his stuff online for free ... he a tually makes a lot of sense.. his ideas helped my game tremendously
.. and yes u dont need looks or millions... just a strong confident fearless funny character

 

[Mike32ct]

#1 - If you mean nice guy as in a doormat, that is correct. But nice, as in being pleasant, is not a turn-off to an attractive woman who has class.

#2 - Correct.

#3 - Correct.

#4 - Correct.

#5 - Correct.

#6 - I don't think women are THAT different in terms of attraction. Looks are still the PRIMARY screening criterion, whether you are male or female. The difference is in how men and women view looks.

#7 - Looks still matter. You must meet or exceed her minimum looks criterion, or you won't get a chance to show your great personality and charm. Money and/or status can substitute for looks though.

#8 - Correct.

#9 - You don't have to know EXACTLY what to do. This isn't super critical like the space shuttle launch. The more attracted to you she is, the more forgiving she will be. But you do need a general understanding of the "do's" and "don'ts." Actually, it's more important to AVOID the "dont's" such as telling her how you feel on date one lol.

#10 - Come to this site for help. Don't pay some guru.

 

[Aaron B]

I don't know why we have to debate what a nice guy is

If we can't even get on the same page with such a basic thing...

 

[floydb25]

David D. is extremely annoying, but he has the right idea. Don't see anything wrong with the list. I think he's talking about the stereotypical nice guy - much like every other nice guy related dating article in the world. They all say the same thing, and are referring to the same kind of person. Which is accurate. The nice guys who whine and ***** even prove it in their submissions / rants.

I'd say trying too hard, coming on too strong, showing too much interest, and revealing too much too soon is also pretty huge. It's why most people fail after they start dating someone. It's worse than revealing feelings before she does, but not by much.

 

[zekko]

Let him be. The guy is successful for a reason .u can get his stuff online for free ... he a tually makes a lot of sense.. his ideas helped my game tremendously
.. and yes u dont need looks or millions... just a strong confident fearless funny character

I'm not meaning to rip on DeAngelo - . I just took each point and gave my honest reaction. I agreed with a good deal of them.

I still think if a guy has a confident fearless character he should use it to get a better job, or network, or build clientelle for his business.

I agree with some, but like you said, the nice guy thing is misunderstood. "Nice guy" by definition (to me) is a beta afc that lets people take advantage of him, is shy, scared to be sexual around women/make it known he wants to bang them.

I really did not want to start this nice guy debate again (believe it or not).
We all know the pickup definition of "Nice guy".

The problem is that if you look in the dictionary, "Nice" does not mean shy, scared, doormat, beta, or any of that what you said. Most people use it to mean pleasant, kind, enjoyable. So too many guys read about the "nice guy" (it's practically the first thing they teach you in pickup school) and they misinterpret it to mean that you can't be a decent person and still get women.

You only have to read this forum to see guys who have this belief firmly entrenched, but it's probably the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. It is so clearly and blatantly false I can't believe so many people buy into it.

 

[MisterD]

I'm not meaning to rip on DeAngelo - . I just took each point and gave my honest reaction. I agreed with a good deal of them.

I still think if a guy has a confident fearless character he should use it to get a better job, or network, or build clientelle for his business.


I really did not want to start this nice guy debate again (believe it or not).
We all know the pickup definition of "Nice guy".

The problem is that if you look in the dictionary, "Nice" does not mean shy, scared, doormat, beta, or any of that what you said. Most people use it to mean pleasant, kind, enjoyable. So too many guys read about the "nice guy" (it's practically the first thing they teach you in pickup school) and they misinterpret it to mean that you can't be a decent person and still get women.

You only have to read this forum to see guys who have this belief firmly entrenched, but it's probably the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. It is so clearly and blatantly false I can't believe so many people buy into it.

Oh I agree bro. People hear about the nice guy not getting the girl and interpret that to mean you have to treat the girl like an ******* in order to get laid. I always break it down into 3 categories, the beta, the alpha, the jerk. The jerk will get more girls than the beta because of his confidence and fearlessness when it comes to escalation, but if you put him up against a "nice" alpha; as in a dominant, confident man who is an overall good person, he'll lose everytime.

That's assuming they're competing for a normal girl and not a girl with "issues"

Nice alpha trumps all

 

[zekko]

I like your style, MisterD. Clearly you have a good head on your shoulders.