10 facts about the Conflict in Georgia

[bbestar]

1. When the USSR disbanded, South Ossetia and Abkhasia voted to stay with Russia, not Georgia. I have not seen the vote tally for Abkhasia but in South Ossetia the voter turn out was 95% and 99% of those voters elected to stay with Russia. The US and Saakashvili have tried to undermine that democratic choice ever since the people of South Ossetia made their decision.

2. The current president of Georgia is American educated, very much a Zionist globalist and New World Order proponent. He is a US and Zionist puppet.

3. The current Minister of Defense in Georgia is former Zionist Israel Army.

4. The Candy Rice visit to Georgia - while Bush and Medvedev were at the G8 Meetings in Hokkaido, Japan - was simply a staged photo op to assure the Zionist Masters that the US was standing with its puppet regime in Georgia. It was also announced during her trip to Georgia that the DoD had scheduled war games for Georgia for most of the month of July. Those war games ended July 31, Georgia attacked August 8. Do the math.

5. The purpose of the war games was to train the Georgian Army in 'counterterrorism operations' and 'door-to-door urban warfare.' In reality, it was prepping it to invade South Ossetia.

6. There was no 'urban war' or 'terrorism' in South Ossetia until Georgia and its US and Israeli Jew advisors personally delivered them.

7. The advisors included both US military and Zionist Israel military. Evidently, Ukraine troops were also involved in the invasion and murdering of civilians. The war started with the death of at least 10 Russian peacekeepers, and then Georgia with its US and Zionist Jew advisors started in on the genocide of civilians....something the zhids especially love to do.

8. Israel has been providing military equipment to Georgia for years. Israel lusts to stir up war and dissension and terrorism. The US does, too. Human sacrifice and financial plunder are their life's blood.


9. all US and Israeli advisors stayed right there after the end of July, and directed the Georgia attack on South Ossetia killing - so far - over 2,000 and injuring many more. By any definition, the attack by Georgia was a premeditated act of war and sheer, genocidal terrorism...ultimately ordered and orchestrated by the US and Zionist Israel.

10. President Medvedev has instructed Russian military judicial and forensics professionals to document these war crimes against the people of South Ossetia. Russia intends to press charges for war crimes against the perpetrators.

Many of the major networks of the Zionist-controlled MSM continue to attempt to try to brainwash the American Sheeple into believing Russia was and is the aggressor. Nothing could be further from the truth. This has been a US-Israeli directed war carried out by their puppet regime in Georgia. Russia responded, logically, properly and quickly to the attack...the sovereign right of any nation to defend its territory and citizens. The people of South Ossetia made the decision in the early 1990s to stay with Russia. Most of the people who live there have Russian passports, not Georgian passports.

-Karl Schwarz

 

[3countriesPlan]

To be objective about everything. I have seen coverage of it and to me it seems like it’s an opportunity for the Russian army to practice their own shock and awe campaign. It also seems like they are getting a bit carried away. The Russians have been wanting to get the oil pipelines back from Georgia by annexing them back into Russia. Supposedly they have been sore at the Georgians since they broke from the Soviet Union. Now with the Olympics, the Russians appear to have an opportunity to do this if they aren’t just practicing shock and awe. The American news did say a lot about the Russians trying to help holders of Russian passports in South Ossetia yet there is a small tinge of “the Russians are going overboard” within all the articles. As an American citizen I can’t bash on what the Russians are doing man. I don’t think any of us with what we’re doing in Iraq can say anything.

My only real thought about all this is.. why is the EU so spineless and weak? They b1tch and moan and don’t do anything. Just like the boy who watched someone make out with his girlfriend and cried. This is a European issue. I think the Europeans are handling this horribly. It’s a sissy reaction by an emasculated continent of girly men. Thank god the Russians are still hardcore or there’d be no ass kicking whites left!

 

[Ingeniarius]

Thank god the Russians are still hardcore or there’d be no ass kicking whites left!

I can't see how war can be seen as hardcore or ass kicking, especially when you put it into a political and economic context which is not crucial to the survival of a people or country. The way I read your post, the Russian Army is primarily there because of the pipeline and because of the people who were granted Russian citizenship. I personally believe that was a good tactic of the Russians as now they are "protecting their own" and so forth.

Europeans have, as dumb as it may sound, learned from their own history that war is usually not a good thing. The main vicitims of the conflict are in fact civilians. Have you ever heard the saying that no real democracy (not just a state that called itself "democratic" has ever started a war against another democracy? Europeans hope to establish democracy in Georgia and Russia. Establishing democracy by external force does not work, as Americans are now finding out in Iraq.

I hope you will reconsider your juvenile and and essentially pointless phrase above. Masculinity has nothing to do with starting military conflicts over pipelines and political small stuff. Real men make the decisions that keep their people safe and only start a war when the essence of a nation or group is in danger. Not to show off.

 

[3countriesPlan]

If that is your definition of a real man.. then the Romans were pansies huh? I stick by what I said. Thank you for calling me juvenile, you didn't have to do that. Russia's actions were brutal but I'm also happy to see that they are not a nation that is paralyzed by what other countries think about them.

The Europeans can say they learned but then again they have subjugated the people of a lot of countries through colonialism. They've had a lot of opportunities to learn from their mistakes and maybe they are on their way now. But, history does have a habit of repeating itself. By thinking that they can make Russia a democracy also shows that they have a sort of superiority complex which says "be more like us, it is better". It's a sort of modern day colonization through the promotion of their political system. Their choice is correct, other choices are wrong.

 

[Ingeniarius]

If that is your definition of a real man.. then the Romans were pansies huh? I stick by what I said. Thank you for calling me juvenile, you didn't have to do that. Russia's actions were brutal but I'm also happy to see that they are not a nation that is paralyzed by what other countries think about them.

The Europeans can say they learned but then again they have subjugated the people of a lot of countries through colonialism. They've had a lot of opportunities to learn from their mistakes and maybe they are on their way now. But, history does have a habit of repeating itself. By thinking that they can make Russia a democracy also shows that they have a sort of superiority complex which says "be more like us, it is better". It's a sort of modern day colonization through the promotion of their political system. Their choice is correct, other choices are wrong.

The Romans were Ancient History, but developed certain rights for Roman citizens that civil law countries use as the basis for their legal system. Also they established a republic (not a democracy by modern standards) with some of the elements we have today, such as a Senate. They swung their swords all right, but were not complete brutes. I'm not going to argue what a "real man" is or not in depth, but he is certainly not violent for the sake of a shock and awe campaign.

The reason Europeans promote their political system is because often war does not solve conflicts. War as a solution is often like shutting the door to a dirty bathroom without cleaning it, for as soon as the military situation allows it, the war erupts again. A political solution however does give long-term solutions to a problem. The Europeans learned this the hard way, and fought two World Wars to find that out.

I will call somebody who refers to a war (in which civilians are the main victims) as positively "hardcore" and the soldiers who fight it "ass-kicking" a juvenile. The statement does not show an adult response to violence for the sake of a shock and awe campaign.

 

[spider_007]

Curious why Bush isn't saying/doing much?
near the end of the broad cast, they kind of spell it out.
http://www.democracynow.org/shows/2008/8/11

Funny isn't it. Main stream media never mentioned any of that.

here is the link to a shorter video i choped out
http://www.savefile.com/files/1724955

 

[ready123]

I love how my country and anything Jewish get demonized in every political discussion