"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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10..9..8..how do you measure up women?

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What's your system?

For me, every woman starts as a 10. I subtract a point for every six years that she's older than 18. So even if you're 100 years old, a 78-year-old woman is an automatic zero.

Fatty? Subtract a point. Ugly face? Subtract a point. Same for various feature problems unrelated to age, such as her thigh being too long or too short for easy doggy style with me.

Big breasts get no deduction, average size loses a point, and small loses two points.

I don't penalize women for their ethnic type. I expect, say, Chinese women to have much smaller breasts than, say, Filipinas. Big is relative to other women from the same ethnicity.

And so on. Women can easily go into negative territory and be repulsive.

So how do you guys figure it?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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no girl is a 10 unless they are in some international magazine as a professional. 7 through 9 is in the eye of the beholder. My scale is how hard my c^%ck gets when I look at them naked and or having sex with them.
 

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Considering you're 52 I'd give you a 4.4

Imo if you use your system you're not gonna find any woman of at least an 8. A 9 can be another man's 6 and vice versa. It depends on personal taste and judgement.

Scientists often say they have created the perfect woman who is a 10 but its all bull****. I wouldn't even have the desire to fk that if i saw it/her.
 

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I honestly can't be bothered do some statisical analysis like you are doing dude. For me, it's not just she's 18, has big boobs therefore is a 9 or whatever.

To keep things mathematical, there is such an X factor, intangible and subjective variable with women that they often attract me in different ways and there may be two girls called A and B (they both have idiot parents). A may be hotter on paper (theoretically using your system) but I may often find B more attractive and sexy
 

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10 is completely subjective, one man's 10 is another man's 9 and vice-versa. There is no woman in the world whom ever man will agree is a 10.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Non-virgin = -1
Unpleasant face = -4
Fat = -5
Lazy = -3
Boring = -2
 

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I just go by how i feel aroud them, do i feel good, bored, happy, annoyed? then ill rate accordingly.
obviously looks is part of that but its not everything.
 

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1 to 9.9, although anything over a 9.5 is very rare.

EDIT: I wanted to add, I have two separate scales: one for LOOKS, and one for the whole package.

A bombshell 9.5 can have a personality that makes her an 8 to me.

A 7.5 can have a wonderful personality that makes her an 8.5 to me.

So two scales.
 
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Attractive and not attractive. Nothing for me is black or white except for this.
 

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1-5 Ugly chicks, fatties,etc.
6-7 Basic and average to extra average chicks.
8 Cute chicks. You actually will want to sport them in public.

9-10 Hot chicks. These chicks can actually make a profit off their looks alone. Guys bend over backwards to accommodate these girls.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Let's be honest about this. There are no 10's. Never will be.

By giving a woman a 10 out of 10 score you are effectively saying that she is perfect, which is bollocks. Perfection in people doesn't exist so there's not point labelling someone as such.

The highest that anyone could ever be labelled, on this rating, would then be a 9. As close to perfection as a human being could be, but even this would be as rare as rocking horse shyt and would ALWAYS depend on the perspective of the person giving the rating. As has been said on here many times, one man's 7 is another man's 9.

Your scale then should realistically look something like this:

9 - as good as you are ever going to get in this life. Rare, though not perfect
8 - as close as you are REALISTICALLY going to get, unless you meet a world famous model with a PhD
7 - very good bird. You could marry a girl like this. May lack one or two things but you're happy with that
6 - a solid bird. LTR material
5 - couple of dates/sex etc
4 - one night if you're drunk maybe

I know this may at first look wrong, but you're essentially deducting one from the traditional scale, because once again (and I know most of you will agree) giving someone a 10 is bullshyt.
 

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Um those that I want to sex and those with carb goggles (getting high on Rajun Cajun Potato Skins) I would do.

Scales are silly if you think about it. ISex is a binary function 0 = no 1= yes that has gray area when you imbibe alcohol.
 

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There are 10's in my scale. A 10 would be someone who looks stunning no matter what angle you look them at (I usually find that for people who look really hot at first sight you can find an angle or some aspect to them where they are less attractive after half a minute of staring). Really, there should be 10's in the scale... 10 =/ perfection, it = the hottest around.

The rating is based almost entirely on facial appearance. Other than the fact that she's gotta be thin (low-average BF%), her body usually won't count against her (I don't care if you have small breasts or whatever), although it can certainly count for her.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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10 pro model = I have to bring brass knuckles if I'm out with her, because I WILL get into at least 1 fight.
9-6 = Guys can't help but stare, maybe try to talk to her and get her number when I am not right next to her. no brass knuckles required
5-0 = all the other girls, other males don't care enough to approach her.
 

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I go by what they look like to me, not a formulaic system.

Below 6=not worth it for me

6=cute, and a little sexy. Basically bangable but not someone I'd show off.

7= pretty sexy, standard good looking.

8=hot, the standard hot/pretty/cute whatever girl you'd be proud to show off. If 7 is standard pretty girl, 8 just has a little extra.

9= banging, off the chain, whatever slang you wanna use. Typically known as that 'really hot girl'

10= moviestar looks, hot model, looks out of place (in a good way) even among other really for girls (9's.).

I'd say 8 an above is less than 10 percent of girls. 9's are 1 in 100. 10 is a few per large city.
 

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djokovic77 said:
I go by what they look like to me, not a formulaic system.

Below 6=not worth it for me

6=cute, and a little sexy. Basically bangable but not someone I'd show off.

7= pretty sexy, standard good looking.

8=hot, the standard hot/pretty/cute whatever girl you'd be proud to show off. If 7 is standard pretty girl, 8 just has a little extra.

9= banging, off the chain, whatever slang you wanna use. Typically known as that 'really hot girl'

10= moviestar looks, hot model, looks out of place (in a good way) even among other really for girls (9's.).
^This, exactly.
 

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i think a nice way to do it is to split the 10 into 2 categories of five. meaning 5 points towards looks, and 5 towards personality. it really helps me put things into perspective.

for example...i see a hot girl at a bar--"whoa! what a total hb8! i'm gonna get her number!"

then after talking to her and getting a feel for her personality, i do the REAL test

looks = 4/5
personality =2/5

so then, in reality, she becomes a 6/10...it helps me from developing feelings too soon or gassing her up like shes a perfect 10. it's like meh...she's hot but her personality sucks. she's not all that great

numbers or not, just make sure you're sizing the girl up right. don't let her high quality looks make up for her low quality personality.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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