"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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1. Girl purposely making me hit her up to hang out. 2. Want her to become attracted

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It used to be both of us texting each other but now its just me. Pretty sure shes playing games.

What happened was a friend and I made her angry, it was pretty small. It was simply because we didnt invite her somewhere with us on July 4th. She got angry and didnt speak to us. Over the next couple weeks I texted her a few times and shes over it.

Now, she will not text my friend or I to hang out, which she always used to do. Now apparently shes making us invite her everywhere. I've invited her to 3 separate events and she she was busy or couldnt make it or something. Either shes really busy or making **** up just to make me beg for her presence.

Im tired of inviting her because its making me look desperate for her time and I dont want to make myself look pathetic. What would you guys do here?
I was thinking of giving her one more call to try and fix this whole immature situation.

Shes been a friend for a really long time and she used to be interested in me, but lost interest. Im trying to get her to like me once again, and the no contact thing backfired on me, she just thought I was trying to avoid her and did nothing for attraction. (I guess it would help if she was attracted in the first place lol)

Im coming here for friendship advice as well as seduction advice, since you guys know how women think. Thanks a lot!
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Down Low

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The threesome thing is weird. No woman truly wants to be the other woman, or one of the guys.
 

TRSX

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RustleYourJimmies said:
Shes been a friend for a really long time and she used to be interested in me, but lost interest. Im trying to get her to like me once again, and the no contact thing backfired on me, she just thought I was trying to avoid her and did nothing for attraction. (I guess it would help if she was attracted in the first place lol)
You just answered your own question. She wants attention, you're giving it to her, she wins.

3 times? The rule ive been seeing is twice and done. (fool me once .. fool me twice)

Sounds also like you're in the friendzone. My opinion if you want out(which might not be possible) and into the intimate zone. Grab your junk and tell her what its gonna be. If you want her to be your friend, grovel at her feet like you've been doing.

YOUR TIME is just if not more valuable then hers. She needs to understand that. Dont let that **** slide.
 

SoSuave666

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Haha, I remember your previous thread. Giving advice would be so much easier if people would just admit to liking some chick and wanting to build interest instead of masking their true intentions to protect their ego. You care far more about this girl than you led on, which is a huge disservice to both you and us (as advisers). I digress...

No contact wasn't a way to build attraction with her. It was a way to let things cool off. It was recommended based on the assumption that you were genuinely trying to be friends with this chick. Now you're pissed it didn't build attraction? How long did you not speak to her? A couple days it seems like, a week tops. Then you asked her to hang out three separate times? Get the hint bro.

NC will save you a lot of time and worry. If she doesn't care enough to reach out to you then you shouldn't be willing to bend over backwards to "rebuild" your friendship. Let me fill you in on a little secret: she didn't care all that much that you didn't invite her to the bbq. She may have been pissed for a couple days but nothing like you think. When you reacted by inviting her to every single event under the sun you showed her that all she needs to do is be a little angry with you and you will come crawling back begging for her to hang out with you. You are rewarding her awful behavior.

I get pretty fed up with dudes on here asking how to build attraction with people they have known for a long time. You want to know how to build attraction? I'll tell you right now. Hop in the Delorean and travel back to when you first met. Game her, ask her on a date, and bang her. The bond of secks will always make future secks more likely. Instead of sitting here wondering why she isn't in to you, you need to ask yourself why you haven't fornicated with her. Enough with this friendship sh!t.
 

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This is the third thread you've made about this girl, man. Are ****ing kidding me? I'm gonna give you all the advice you need to hear right now. Stop worrying about this girl. She lost interest in you, you're not gonna get it back so stop trying. You wanna stop being desperate? Well, you already look desperate so no use in that. We all told you to stop contacting her, and you didn't listen. Why? If you're asking us for advice and not gonna follow it, why are you asking us for advice in the first place? No one's gonna give you the fairytale answer that you two were destined to be together and she's gonna come around. Get real man.

If she's being a ***** and not coming to events then stop inviting her to them. Jesus Christ it's not that hard. She's disrespected you multiple times and you still wanna be with this chick? Really? Do you have any balls left? I surely can't see em from here. Man the **** up. You need to respect yourself before you expect anyone else to respect you, and the way you're acting, it looks like that's never gonna happen.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I guess it would help if she was attracted in the first place lol.
Attraction isn’t a choice. You can’t seduce a woman who isn’t attracted to you, or who loses attraction for you. The seduction game works with what’s already there.
Choose the Right Victim
Everything depends on the target of your seduction. Study your prey thoroughly, and choose only those who will prove susceptible to your charms. The right victims are those for whom you can fill a void, who see in you something exotic. They are often isolated or unhappy, or can easily be made so—for the completely contented person is almost impossible to seduce. The perfect victim has some quality that inspires strong emotions in you, making your seductive maneuvers seem more natural and dynamic. The perfect victim allows for the perfect chase.

Seducers, whether sexual or social, prefer to pick the odds. As often as possible they go toward people who betray some vulnerability to them, and avoid the ones who cannot be moved. To leave people who are inaccessible to you alone is a wise path; you cannot seduce everyone. On the other hand, you must actively hunt out the prey that responds the right way. This will make your seductions that much more pleasurable and satisfying.​
 
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