"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Avoiding the Friend Zone Yahoo Article

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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i think this post has SOME SMALL value to the Noobie AFC.

i remember back in the day i had a girl tell me i was too nice. looking back if i read that then i would have been helpful
 

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F*cking *****s.. It's all about them.

It's like, you treat them with respect they say you are too nice.. then you argue with them a little to be a challenge they say you just are not on the same page.. wtf. Pick a lane..
 

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"Pick a lane.."

You drive; they ride shotgun - if they don't like where you're going just hit the ejector seat button.
 

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DonJuanabe said:
"Pick a lane.."

You drive; they ride shotgun - if they don't like where you're going just hit the ejector seat button.

Some days I wish I had an ejection seat installed in my car..

I used to work on F-16's. So from what I know that broad will be rocketing at the speed of sound within the blink of an eye..

"hey why do you always get to pick where we eat?"
"I'm tired.."
"I don't like the music..I'm.. "
(in mid sentence I would just punch that button...)
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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The last paragraph was upsetting. The part about how with age and experience, women learn that nice men are the right men.

That needs to be taught/learned???? Bad = bad, nice = good. Doesn't get more basic than that. ****ing women bro.
 

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I was expecting crap, but that was actually pretty good. Most women will mention those things inbetween saying you're nice. The *****es will be more forward and rude in their criticizing. Damn *****es!

But yea, its always about them. Thats why I no longer sympathise, go out of my way for, chase, or try to win them over. It is what it is. Too lazy for all that worrying ****. Even the ones who claim this or that person is selfish is selfish themselves. And usually not worth ****. These are human traits, though - not just women. Women just feel entitled to everything, which is why they ***** so much. Especially the attractive, spoiled types.
 

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Notice how the looks topic was avoided in this article?

They want you to believe that the key to sex appeal is to be confident, unpredictable, decisive, and a risk taker.

In other words, your nice guy problem is ONLY a personality flaw you can fix. Hahaha.

Then when you confidently make a move on her to be more "bad/naughty," you'll be a creeper.

It's another form of the "looks don't matter" school of thought.
 

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MisterD said:
The last paragraph was upsetting. The part about how with age and experience, women learn that nice men are the right men.

That needs to be taught/learned???? Bad = bad, nice = good. Doesn't get more basic than that. ****ing women bro.
Just when men don't want them anymore, they learn. LOL

And then when they can't find the EXACT same guy that they rejected 100's of times 10 years ago, they complain: "where are all the good men?"
:crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup::crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup:
 

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This article was written by a woman.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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TillTheEndOfTime said:
Just when men don't want them anymore, they learn. LOL

And then when they can't find the EXACT same guy that they rejected 100's of times 10 years ago, they complain: "where are all the good men?"
:crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup::crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup:
^This.
 

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headFirst said:
Some days I wish I had an ejection seat installed in my car..

I used to work on F-16's. So from what I know that broad will be rocketing at the speed of sound within the blink of an eye..

"hey why do you always get to pick where we eat?"
"I'm tired.."
"I don't like the music..I'm.. "
(in mid sentence I would just punch that button...)

Women complain, I just look them in the eyes and chuckle, then put my finger to my lips and go "Shhhhhhh" with a smile.

After that, I just do whatever I wanted to do.
Also, dinner dates are boring. She's probably saying "You pick boring dates."
That means she's unhappy with what you're doing with her.
Do different, more exciting things.
 

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“Often, ‘nice’ is our code for needy, boring, insecure, socially awkward or bad in bed. We’re just too nice to say it.”
Thank you! Work on your social, sexual, and life skills before you try to be a bad boy.

From the *****s' mouth.
 
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Yup. Treat em with respect, and end up in the friend zone. It's just the way cookie crumbles, my men!

Like Stewie Griffin discovered on Family Guy when Olivia came along...you have to be a jerk on some level, if you want to get anything from her.

I had a girl who flirted with me shamelessly for a month straight, only to tell me she was already seeing someone when I asked her out.
 

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All the problems about "niceness" in many guys are the effect of being brain washed from family and school system while lacking positive masculine examples.

The default male mind set is far from niceness, just remember at the kindergarden how 5yrs old males were treating 5yrs old females, they were all natural in treating them badly or pushing when they were annoying.

It was no problem to deny them to take parts in game where they had no ability as much as ignoring their bvllsh1t, then it comes the "education" and we see the results.

If you think about it, what we were doing was simply being the jerks women love as much as mother nature want us to be.

And before somebody talk about no sex drive for kids, just know that sex drive would have simply made us more aggressive toward them but definitely not chumps, as sexual aggressivity being a distinctive trait of those who get sex regularly.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Who Dares Win said:
All the problems about "niceness" in many guys are the effect of being brain washed from family and school system while lacking positive masculine examples.

The default male mind set is far from niceness, just remember at the kindergarden how 5yrs old males were treating 5yrs old females, they were all natural in treating them badly or pushing when they were annoying.

It was no problem to deny them to take parts in game where they had no ability as much as ignoring their bvllsh1t, then it comes the "education" and we see the results.

If you think about it, what we were doing was simply being the jerks women love as much as mother nature want us to be.

And before somebody talk about no sex drive for kids, just know that sex drive would have simply made us more aggressive toward them but definitely not chumps, as sexual aggressivity being a distinctive trait of those who get sex regularly.
Has this, ever gotten you a girlfriend?
 
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