"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Is she lying?

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Okay so here's the deal. Me and this girl had arranged to meet up at the movies tonight. We made plans for this on Wedensday Night for this. Last night me a her arragned everything for the date. So The movie started at 7:25 pm. I called her at 5:00pm to give her the start time for the movie. So then she tells me she can't go because she's at her friends house and her friend's bf couldn't make and her didn't wanted her friend to be the "3rd Wheel". She said that she was "soooooooo SOOOORRRRRRRRRY" Funny thing about this is that she didn't even tell that she was settin up a double date in the first place and if this was so sudden, why didn't she tell me (remember I had to call her). I mean if she knew she wasn't going, why didn't she call ahead of time? Idk, this stoy sounds kinda of fishy to me. Is she lying or I'm I just being paranoid?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Daddy The Pimp said:
cmon man .. Stop over analyzing

She couldnt make it , ok . Give her another chance , if she cant make it again just next her .

I think u can notice if that girl is interested on you !! If she's not next her immediately . Dont loose time on her .
Alright, i guess i was kinda trippin. Thanks for the help.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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dude she was lying. girls flake. it is bull****. they think they can. sorry to coarse but she probably found something, in her mind, better to do. you should to. find another girl.

if you see her out it is really simple. say "hi nice to see you. you look good." if she asks how you are say "well." then tell her "listen i gotta go" and roll.
 

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drmeathead said:
dude she was lying. girls flake. it is bull****. they think they can. sorry to coarse but she probably found something, in her mind, better to do. you should to. find another girl.

if you see her out it is really simple. say "hi nice to see you. you look good." if she asks how you are say "well." then tell her "listen i gotta go" and roll.
It could be a lie.

Don't talk too much offense, MOST girls flake when they first meet you. Unless she is totally infatuated with you physically and mentally right off the bat, she will flake just because she is afraid to commit too much too early.

Next time this happens, remember it's a test. Take it in stride and tell her you have some things to do anyways and you'll talk to her later.
 

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i'd say what daddy the pimp said too; give her another chance, choose another place too, go for a drink in the afternoon. o and dont make OVERcalls, call her just once,arrange this date in one call, if she accepts, lets hope she doesnt cancel it, if she refuses... well in cases of refusion or canceling next her. otherwise u should see her and enjoy ur time.
let us know what happens with u
 

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ive actually did this the other way around like i would cancel off the date to see if after me even canceling if she would sitll be there to hang out the next week, so most likley its a test if you arrange plan for next week or w/e and she cancels again then find another girl plus just by posting this you seem like you getting just a lil too attached to a girl you don't even date. But just try to find another day to hang out don't bug the **** out of her about it she will loose intrest fast and if she doesn't show up again then move on.
 

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are you guys kidding...1) this girl backed out on the date. 2) she didnt have the class to call and say so. 3) she made up some bull**** reason not to go.

number one is bad enough but if done with class and respect for a legitimate reason can be over looked.

number two is worse. what if the guy showed up to pick her up or met her out. then he would have found out the hard way she wasnt coming. in a sense he is lucky took the weak confidence route and called to confirm his date the day of. why didnt she call? she doesnt respect him or is so self centered she didnt care.


number three. she lied. it is a deal breaker. no integrity. if she lies about this what else will she lie about?


it is up to you dude. call her again but she doesnt respect you. if she did she would have called to cancel.

number three is a deal
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I wouldn't talk to her again until she called you.
 

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i would agree with ya about the class thing drmeathead but its high school most girls won't call unless there head over hills about ya in the first place, it's not so much about class more than about 80% to 85% of the girls in high school don't have the balls to even call the guy, and as far as letting the guy know ahead of time well thats all about being mature and no offense but most girls and most people in school are not mature enough to call someone they made a date with and tell them ahead of time that they can't do it. But, now after thinking about it i do agree that this girl isn't worth even giving a second try because she did cancel out on you, and even if shes testing you she did lie, and unless your just looking for a **** buddy then i wouldn't be down with dating any kind of lier. I mean if you do date her what will she lie about when your dating if she lied to you on the first date? So next this girl shes not worth your time, because you don't need liers and girls that like to play games before even going on the first date.
 
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