mahon83050
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since any of you under 5'8" are already at a distinct disadvantage with women, you better make sure you atleast have a handsome face or a ripped body or you ain't hooking up with no hotties.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Tips for short guys
- Thread starter mahon83050
- Start date
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
mahon83050
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Tom Cruise is also handsome and a celebrity (he does not apply)speakeasy said:
Johnny Soporno
Senior Don Juan
Shorter fellows can use this classic introductory line:
"Whew... there's something irresistible about a girl I'd have to 'Go UP' on!"
Johnny Soporno
Worthy Playboy
"Whew... there's something irresistible about a girl I'd have to 'Go UP' on!"
Johnny Soporno
Worthy Playboy
yep
Don Juan
How is this a tip? Are you saying workout and wash your face to clear zits? I can see that.mahon83050 said:
A better tip would have been to maybe start talking to alot of women and develop your personality.
"You aint hooking up with no hotties" is kinda of a negative outlook on things, people would read this and be like oh man i'm short so just screw it. Maybe more positivness from now on.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
this from a "master don juan" are you friggin kidding me? i'm 5'7 and can pull/flirt with girls taller than me constantly.. hell i even had for a short while a g/f that was 6'4 so don't spout off crap that has no bearing against a man AT ALL.
do not listen to this blithering idiot guys.. being short has no effect on your game at all be confident stand tall and game on.
do not listen to this blithering idiot guys.. being short has no effect on your game at all be confident stand tall and game on.
Master Bates
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No, there aren't. This is one of those cases where if something like that actually existed, the general public would know about it, and short celebrities would use it. I haven't heard of Rob Schneider sprouting an extra four inches lately, have you? Why would Tom Cruise settle for staying 5'7 if he didn't have to?Mctwist4 said:
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Height does not matter! trust me. I am not saying this to be the good guy, Im talking from experience.
mahon83050
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What about guys who are 5'5" and under then? Ever go to short person support on the web and read about all those short guys who women won't even look at?
yep
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Oh my ****ing god, people just get out a try the stuff. For the love of god or your family try to talk to women, they DO NOT GIVE A **** ABOUT HOW TALL YOU ARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!mahon83050 said:
Women are based on emotions. Study David DeAengelo, Mystery, ect. (pickup artists attraction atrists) then come back and talk about height.
Just study.....your not at a disadvantage because of a stupid height concept. I have a friend who is 5'7 and more succesful than me. I get plenty of older women, younger, my age, ect... hitting on me and he is just outrageous with em, he surpasses me. Just try the stuff.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
This is ridiculous. I have a friend who has slept with anywhere between 75-100 women now. He's 5'6. No doubt, he's a good looking guy, he takes good care of himself, but it's not his looks that get him women. He's a really charismatic and funny guy, and he goes after what he wants. And most of the women he gets are pretty damn hot.
girl_in_a_boy_forum
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My boyfriend is 5'4, maybe 5'5 with shoes on. I'm 5'8.
What attracts me to him instead of to the 6'2 guys?
1. He has good posture
2. He dresses well (Not expensively, but he always wears clothes that fit or gets them tailored to his size)
3. He works out everyday and has almost 0% body fat, keeps in good shape, and can throw me over his shoulder if he feels like it
4. He has confidence and self-worth, and stands up for himself
5. He has a maturity that all the tall boys I've met lacked
6. He's very intelligent and exercises his brain as much as he exercises his body
7. He's very outgoing
Height is no excuse.
What attracts me to him instead of to the 6'2 guys?
1. He has good posture
2. He dresses well (Not expensively, but he always wears clothes that fit or gets them tailored to his size)
3. He works out everyday and has almost 0% body fat, keeps in good shape, and can throw me over his shoulder if he feels like it
4. He has confidence and self-worth, and stands up for himself
5. He has a maturity that all the tall boys I've met lacked
6. He's very intelligent and exercises his brain as much as he exercises his body
7. He's very outgoing
Height is no excuse.
comic_relief
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Your boyfriend is a joke because 0% bodyfat is dead. I am in good shape and I have 5.1% bf.girl_in_a_boy_forum said:
I find your list to be pretty good.
BTW agreed with your "Height is no excuse."
A common theme in this site is not to make excuses. I have seen short guys pull tons of hot girls and I have seen tons of tall guys get nothing at all but their right hands. It all matters.
My best frend is 5'5" and he has knocked big city boys on their asses for trying to start sh!t. He gets tons of tail. If you embody inner game then that will make up for the outer problems.
comic_relief
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
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Heightening surgeries are no secret. But nobody does them because they're really expensive and have you in a wheelchair for several months. And the efficacy of homeopathy is not proven.Mctwist4 said:
mahon83050
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Why were they trying to start ****?comic_relief said:
comic_relief
Master Don Juan
they were trying to start sh!t because they were drunk and trying to steal one of the girls that he was going out with. Plus, he was trying to p!ss off everyone. So my friend shut him the fvck up by kicking their @$$. Yeah, every girl wanted to get with him at that point.mahon83050 said:
comic_relief
or you can get a couple of these-
http://www.increasingshoes.com/?source=overture&OVRAW=short%20men&OVKEY=short%20man&OVMTC=standard&OVADID=1360878012&OVKWID=9957775012
I am just over 5'8" and I thought about trying some of these on for size. It would be an interesting social experiment to see if women would treat me any differently in a nightclub setting.
http://www.increasingshoes.com/?source=overture&OVRAW=short%20men&OVKEY=short%20man&OVMTC=standard&OVADID=1360878012&OVKWID=9957775012
I am just over 5'8" and I thought about trying some of these on for size. It would be an interesting social experiment to see if women would treat me any differently in a nightclub setting.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.