"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Tony Robbins
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"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
He's a very skilled salesman and also a master hypnotist. This means that he knows how to use words that change the way people feel and think very easily.
The way hypnosis works though, is it has to be applied regularly for the changes to stay. Generally, a hypnotic suggestion has a maximum effect of 3 days, but if you re-hypnotized yourself every day, eventually, you'd develop a real habit and wouldn't need the hypnosis anymore.
That's how TR's programs work in a nutshell. The actual content of what he says is decent, he got most of the material from other, valid sources.
He rightly emphasizes action over affirmations, because people sometimes try to achieve what they want soley through affirmations, which is a passive deception. What all the tapes are really for are tricking you into using your willpower.
I think the only real problem is that he's at such a high level, it's not always realistic for everyone to get there as fast as he did. He says that he came from the bottom in a one-room apartment in depression, but if you listen to the various stories he tells, the complete picture is that he was already pretty successful, he'd achieved a 10,000/month income and had been popular in high school before he got depressed and lived in that apartment. Then he learned NLP and got out of that funk, but clearly, he wasn't starting from zero when he got things moving, an impression he gives when he tells his sob story.
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just sayin.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
Go to the library and check out one of his books or CDs and give him a chance yourself. Understand that for it to work, you will have to put forth a genuine effort and not BS your way through it by trying to fake it until you make it.
Who cares if he makes money, he changes lives for the better and he concentrates on all aspects, not just "picking up chicks". In essence, what he is doing is very similar to what this forum is all about. Self improvement.
Another thing that I found interesting is that I have heard about his success, then his failure, then his success again but so far he has not gotten into any detail. What was the name of the company he developed? And what specific actions did he take to get back to where he is now?
Nevertheless I am willing to play the role of guinea pig and try some of what he teaches out. Lets see if what he teaches can help someone like me succeed. I will get back to you all in a month
organizedconfusion
Master Don Juan
duce,that guy is built like Frankenstien i seen him
on the Conan O'Brian show and completly dwarfed him.Conan's pretty tall to begin with.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
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Exactly! Nowhere does he mention how long he was depressed or 'down in the dumps'. He tells this story to try and connect with you if you consider you are down in the dumps as well or if 'he did it, so can you'. He was popular in highschool because he went around to everyone saying something along the lines of... "Vote for me and I won't bull**** you" or something like that. Now back in the day when he was in highschool that type of campaigne was probably new but if you do that today you might get punched in the face. Bottom line: he made "Tony Robbins" Successful.
Scrumtulescence
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Lost In Translation
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I think the guy is awesome.
i think he is cool too.
he is positive. i can listen to positive people all day long.
paid or not he has a job that helps people.
a job like that is something anyone should be proud of.
i remember years ago up late at night
my life so f*cked up it was scary
between the b*tches selling jewelry on their infomercials
tony robbins came on
now i was a broke mutha f*cker and even though i would have bought his tapes if i had some spare cash
i had no spare cash so i never got his tapes
but i didn't let that get me upset i looked at the infomercial as a free tape
here is some guy who doesn't know me and he says i can change
he says his life was f*cked up and he felt like a failure
but he made a change and if he could do it anyone could
for those 30 minutes or however long that infomercial went for i felt hope enter my heart
and the next day i tried to turn my life around
i am not saying watching an infomercial turned my life around
tony didn't do that
but what tony did was speak a positive word
fake or not. paid or not. doesn't matter.
i was a hardcore criminal going to hell and i couldnt see a way out
i wanted out
i needed hope
who was going to speak hope into my life ?
the corrupt police trying to murder me ?
my enemies on the streets ?
my friends who were murders ,thieves and drug dealers ?
nobody.
just some infomercial late at night
thats when you know your life is f*cked up when the only positive word you hear is a infomercial at 2am LOL !
tony offered me hope by saying i could change
and for what it's worth i wanna say thankyou Tony
God bless you and i have never bought none of your stuff
Lost In Translation
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His books are a TOME. They are very lengthy, well researched, full of good thought. If they were under 100 pages, double spaced, I'd say he was all fluff and beef. But he's not, he's 400+ pages or close to it in most books, so he has enough meat for most topics.
His program are installation tools that LIE underneath thought patterns. Meaning, it becomes a foundation for inner game, inner control, inner life. You get understandings to the intracies of the brain/mind.
I got both Awaken the Giant and Unlimited Power...both fantastic books for only $30 total...and I'd spent nearly $150 on 1 book of finance in college and gotten nowhere near the value.
A-Unt
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
So why do you guys insist that he did these things so fast? Talk about people being unrealistic.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
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Tony Robbins said that he went from being depressed and in the dumps to being a millionaire in one year. He doesn't technically say that he was over his depression when he had the million dollars, but it's a logical conclusion that he'd got over it sometime within that time frame.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
A year isn't unrealistic to get out of the dumps, the millionaire thing is all about having the right product in the right place at the right time. More external forces to contend with that depressions which is controlled by you.
wheelin&dealin
Master Don Juan
I'm very impressed by his book "Awaken the Giant Within". It gave me the ability to have superb emotional control. Plus, he is very positive about being able to change your life.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.