jhonny9546
Master Don Juan
Hey there!
Yesterday, we had a heated discussion with other men, some my age, some older.
We were talking about how when women have the power and freedom to choose, not only will they do what they want, driven by their nature, but we men will also fight over a bit of *****.
And one man talked about how it would be easier for us men if we all agreed to "control" women, impose strict limits on them, and make them feel socially shamed, just like our grandparents did (arranged marriage, strict family dynasties, etc).
In short, according to them, for things to work, a man should control them, shame them when they've made mistakes, and keep them within a certain ideology.
So let's say a woman cheated... in this case, the man should shame her, tell her family, friends, etc., and make her feel socially shamed, and then maintain the relationship with the knowledge that she will no longer do this and will be monitored for it.
Rather than leave, here in Italy, at least all the men I spoke to were Italian, they agreed that you should get angry with her if she ever did something like that, raise your voice, and scold her. Yet I was the only one who thought differently, and I pointed out to them that I would simply leave and go back to living on my own.
They told me that I would be weak, because I would "run away" rather than stay and set her straight.
It's easy for me to wonder if I'm too convinced I'm a confident man, or if these men are actually just echoing a cultural tradition their fathers, grandfathers, and ancestors taught them.
While I believe it's true that if women have freedom and power, they can do what they want, I don't consider it the action of a mature, solid man to scold a woman for disrespecting him, or to indoctrinate her, perhaps with the help of other family members.
I'd simply feel hurt by her actions, explaining to her what she's done, and that there's no turning back. I'm not even saying anything about indoctrination. She's free, just like I am, and if she acts in certain ways, then I don't even get angry; she knows I'll go my own way and it'll be goodbye.
I wonder what weakness men see in this, rather than getting angry, yelling at her, raising their voices, or scolding her.
I really suspect that Italian women are playing a game where they're mocking these men, making them believe that this is how it should be, that "women want to be scolded". But in reality, it only takes a single occasion of a lack of respect to destroy all the admiration and respect a woman has for a man.
And they test men for this, so they can see which ones they can keep for LTR, those men who get angry and scold them.
They don't care about being scolded, but about the fact that they can do it again, and they know he won't just leave, but will set new limits they won't respect.
What's your experience?
Yesterday, we had a heated discussion with other men, some my age, some older.
We were talking about how when women have the power and freedom to choose, not only will they do what they want, driven by their nature, but we men will also fight over a bit of *****.
And one man talked about how it would be easier for us men if we all agreed to "control" women, impose strict limits on them, and make them feel socially shamed, just like our grandparents did (arranged marriage, strict family dynasties, etc).
In short, according to them, for things to work, a man should control them, shame them when they've made mistakes, and keep them within a certain ideology.
So let's say a woman cheated... in this case, the man should shame her, tell her family, friends, etc., and make her feel socially shamed, and then maintain the relationship with the knowledge that she will no longer do this and will be monitored for it.
Rather than leave, here in Italy, at least all the men I spoke to were Italian, they agreed that you should get angry with her if she ever did something like that, raise your voice, and scold her. Yet I was the only one who thought differently, and I pointed out to them that I would simply leave and go back to living on my own.
They told me that I would be weak, because I would "run away" rather than stay and set her straight.
It's easy for me to wonder if I'm too convinced I'm a confident man, or if these men are actually just echoing a cultural tradition their fathers, grandfathers, and ancestors taught them.
While I believe it's true that if women have freedom and power, they can do what they want, I don't consider it the action of a mature, solid man to scold a woman for disrespecting him, or to indoctrinate her, perhaps with the help of other family members.
I'd simply feel hurt by her actions, explaining to her what she's done, and that there's no turning back. I'm not even saying anything about indoctrination. She's free, just like I am, and if she acts in certain ways, then I don't even get angry; she knows I'll go my own way and it'll be goodbye.
I wonder what weakness men see in this, rather than getting angry, yelling at her, raising their voices, or scolding her.
I really suspect that Italian women are playing a game where they're mocking these men, making them believe that this is how it should be, that "women want to be scolded". But in reality, it only takes a single occasion of a lack of respect to destroy all the admiration and respect a woman has for a man.
And they test men for this, so they can see which ones they can keep for LTR, those men who get angry and scold them.
They don't care about being scolded, but about the fact that they can do it again, and they know he won't just leave, but will set new limits they won't respect.
What's your experience?
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