video: **CHAD VS SUB5 TREATMENT** How Are These Men Treated Differently?

[MatureDJ]

Wow, this is amazing.

 

[corrector]

How is it amazing? Depressing is a better term.

 

[corrector]

I wish @GoodMan32 would chime in on this actually. He is on the spectrum and complains he is not picking up IOIs or acting on them properly or reading social cues. Yet, how these women behave on the video should be obvious to anyone watching this.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Why is this a surprise?

 

[corrector]

Why is this a surprise?

Because they are both white. That throws out the JBW theory. (just kidding)

But seriously though, if you took that sub-5, and brought him to the Phillipeans, or some SEA country and he approached girls like that, would they treat him like the chad buy because he is white in those countries? That would be an interesting experiment.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Because they are both white. That throws out the JBW theory. (just kidding)

But seriously though, if you took that sub-5, and brought him to the Phillipeans, or some SEA country and he approached girls like that, would they treat him like the chad buy because he is white in those countries? That would be an interesting experiment.

No lol

 

[OngBak]

The Video is a bit flawed though due to confirmation bias, Chads also get the negative treatment sometimes, but its out of self-esteem issues then attraction issues from woman

 

[corrector]

The Video is a bit flawed though due to confirmation bias, Chads also get the negative treatment sometimes, but its out of self-esteem issues then attraction issues from woman

The main issue is how open the women were with chad vs other guy before either even opened their mouth. They made their decision in less than 2 seconds. That's why non-verbal rejection is real. If you get treatment like that second guy before you even open your mouth, that usually means you don't interact with the women and go about your business as it would be trouble (ie it would be a net loss - hit to self-esteem, feeling the interaction is strained, getting one word answers with a dismissive tone when trying to talk, feeling "lost" unless there is a clear business reason you are talking to her, etc...) . If women are open like the chad-guy, you pick up their energy, vibe as well, and it becomes NATURAL to make an approach.

 

[OngBak]

The main issue is how open the women were with chad vs other guy before either even opened their mouth. They made their decision in less than 2 seconds. That's why non-verbal rejection is real. If you get treatment like that second guy before you even open your mouth, that usually means you don't interact with the women and go about your business as it would be trouble (ie it would be a net loss - hit to self-esteem, feeling the interaction is strained, getting one word answers with a dismissive tone when trying to talk, feeling "lost" unless there is a clear business reason you are talking to her, etc...) . If women are open like the chad-guy, you pick up their energy, vibe as well, and it becomes NATURAL to make an approach.

I get that but my point was even Chads get the negative treatment sometimes, not out of creepiness or low attraction, but out of self-esteem issues the woman has. And Again the Video is flawed, the Youtuber and the Good Looking guy only posted the part where the girls reaction was good, but not the ones where he got the negative treatment.

As much as the halo effect exist, the opposite the reverse halo effect is true and exist as well

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Why would it be surprising?

Are you claiming you look at a woman you find unattractive the same way you do one that you find attractive?

If you claim you do, you are lying.

That's human nature.

What is amazing is that we still need posts like this to constantly restate the obvious.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Why would it be surprising?

Are you claiming you look at a woman you find unattractive the same way you do one that you find attractive?

If you claim you do, you are lying.

That's human nature.

What is amazing is that we still need posts like this to constantly restate the obvious.

Movies like Hitch have really made men lazy and over entitled.

 

[characternote]

That's human nature.

What is amazing is that we still need posts like this to constantly restate the obvious.

I guess it's because most of what remains of the 'pickup community' (thankfully not so much this place) still pushes this insane narrative that 'girls aren't visual' (which I read every day on seddit lol) and other ridiculous theories that are used to help these 'coaches' scam some money from gullible, desperate, unfortunate guys.

 

[HaleyBaron]

Isn't this obvious? The point of the forum is to show boys to clean up and become more attractive men. So not surprised.

 

[corrector]

Why would it be surprising?

Are you claiming you look at a woman you find unattractive the same way you do one that you find attractive?

What women are really unattractive? I challenge you to post a pic of any woman that everyone on here would find unattractive, lol

 

[BackInTheGame78]

What women are really unattractive? I challenge you to post a pic of any woman that everyone on here would find unattractive, lol

It doesn't matter that "everyone" thinks a woman is unattractive.

Just like each woman has her own views as what's attractive in a man.

All that matters is that person views them as unattractive.

 

[GoodMan32]

I wish @GoodMan32 would chime in on this actually. He is on the spectrum and complains he is not picking up IOIs or acting on them properly or reading social cues. Yet, how these women behave on the video should be obvious to anyone watching this.

Your wish has been granted. I will chime in

Yeah, even to me, it's obvious that the girls react differently to the better-looking dude

My problem is more (as you indicated) acting properly on the IOIs (and reading more subtle cues)

On that note, it just so happens I met some woman online. She lives many states away from me (so we haven't met in person yet, nor are we officially boyfriend/girlfriend). Yet she knows all my baggage, still wants to be with me, and (in the total opposite pattern of what typically happens) the more she interacts with me the higher her interest level becomes (she's an undiagnosed but suspected autist by the way)

This whole thing is extremely new (less than a week), yet I like where it's heading

 

[corrector]

Your wish has been granted. I will chime in

Yeah, even to me, it's obvious that the girls react differently to the better-looking dude

My problem is more (as you indicated) acting properly on the IOIs (and reading more subtle cues)

On that note, it just so happens I met some woman online. She lives many states away from me (so we haven't met in person yet, nor are we officially boyfriend/girlfriend). Yet she knows all my baggage, still wants to be with me, and (in the total opposite pattern of what typically happens) the more she interacts with me the higher her interest level becomes (she's an undiagnosed but suspected autist by the way)

This whole thing is extremely new (less than a week), yet I like where it's heading

The idea here is that, instead of subtle cues, women make it obvious if they are interested, to that point that spectrum people can even see that. There may not really be "subtle cues" but could be some mental post-processing that's more ego-protective after the fact.

 

[zekko]

A couple things jump out at me. First off, the Chad guys know without a doubt they are good looking, and they know they're getting by on their looks. It's not that they're conceited, it's because the feedback they have received confirms it for them.

Secondly, that guy's pickup lines are pretty much what they tell you not to do (call the girl beautiful). He just says "Why so pretty?", or "Where'd you get that? That beauty?", or the obviously canned "Hey, you dropped something - my jaw, because you're so beautiful", and it's ON. But PUA gurus tell you not to mention a woman's beauty, but to focus on some tiny detail if you want to give a compliment, like her earrings or something.

 

[Prepostereax]

It's all based on TikTok, so assume it's curated.

I concur that some guys do get this treatment, witnessed it many a time, but..

WW assigned this dude Chad status, ie 8+
The women he's approached are Becky tier at best (not even that, they are average).
They're not in his league.
Let's see him try his lines on an actual HB9+

"Mr Creep" would have far better reception by lowering his goalposts a little - the women he approached were also average, or less.
(average dude success with average women, I've also witnessed many a time, but it's the way this guy carries himself, lacking confidence, that sunk him)

Incidentally, this seems to be a recent phenomenon, that both guy and girl should be equally good looking.
Perhaps it's a side effect of photo-based dating, even though these are cold approaches.

Traditionally, the woman brought beauty to the table.
Now we're demonstrating that the guy needs to be more attractive than the woman??

 

[zekko]

Traditionally, the woman brought beauty to the table.
Now we're demonstrating that the guy needs to be more attractive than the woman??

You said the key word, traditionally. Traditionally, when the major female gender role was to care for the home and raise the children, women needed men for financial support. Now that the culture actually urges women to build careers more than men, they don't need husbands to support them since they can earn money themselves - or if needed, the government will step in and do it for them, especially if they have children. Also, since The Pill removed a lot of the responsibility for getting pregnant, society has encouraged them to ride the carousel instead of settling down with a good man. Since women no longer need men for protection (government again) or provision, it reduces their value to physical attraction.

But unlike men, women only find a small percentage of the opposite sex attractive, so the Chads get most of the immediate interest.