The brutal truth about what attracts women

[tesla8520]

You say women shouldn't be understood, and we agree on that.
And in fact, I don't want to be influenced by women, by feminism, by feminine thinking, or by beta males.
I'm influenced by my experiences (and yours).

Logically, if the average woman likes being tied up, f0cked hard with that masculine animality, (you know when your manhood gets high when you're inside her p0ssy.. it's like when goku saw the moon and turned into a monkey), having her hair pulled, their 4ss slapped, choked until she loses consciousness, and f0cked in the mouth until she vomits.
I've had women come back to me for this like dogs do to their master.
I can't understand how women can be attracted to the other things they say they want in a man...
A violent, arrogant, narcissistic, manipulative, coercive, opportunistic, sadistic man truly has everything it takes to attract women and keep them long-term.

Shall we forget about what modern society wants men to look for:
"healthy relationships"
"not having outbursts of anger."
"therapy (fix your trauma)"
"emotional control"
"not raising voice"
"not be toxic"
"etc.."


These are just my thoughts.
There's just so much noise out there, online, but also among men.
Men, these days, are indecisive, doubtful, and don't know which is the "truth" or the "way of doing" things with women.
I put myself too in that basket, but I'm learning.

I'm putting effort guys.. I'm learning while other men are cuck0lding.

A famous man told that we must find truth in the middle.
Where is the middle?

 

[BaronOfHair]

@tesla8520 "And in fact, I don't want to be influenced by women, by feminism, by feminine thinking, or by beta males"

And none of us want to be persuaded via skillful advertising to shell out cash on purchasing something that isn't especially healthy for

Antartica will experience Sub-Saharan weather for an entire decade uninterrupted, BEFORE such aspirations become realities

 

[itouchyou]

If you think your "average woman" likes that stuff, you need to get out more. Yes, women like being dominated in the bedroom but that doesn't necessarily mean they all want to get throat fcked until they vomit and and painal.

I think porn has warped a lot of people's minds. There are plenty of good women out there who won't do any of that stuff.

 

[tesla8520]

There are plenty of good women out there who won't do any of that stuff.

They will do it with the "right" man

 

[Cheeky_James]

Looks and Status/Money are the primary factors and the Brutal Truth mate. And these factors are as old as Time.

 

[The Duke]

If you think your "average woman" likes that stuff, you need to get out more. Yes, women like being dominated in the bedroom but that doesn't necessarily mean they all want to get throat fcked until they vomit and and painal.

I think porn has warped a lot of people's minds. There are plenty of good women out there who won't do any of that stuff.

You aren't the right guy. I've had lots of women tell me I got them to do things they have never done before. I believe most of them. Most dudes don't get women. But when you do so many doors open. It's the coolest thing when a woman gives you her entire body and wants you to do whatever you desire. But you first must please them to get to that point.

 

[itouchyou]

You aren't the right guy. I've had lots of women tell me I got them to do things they have never done before. I believe most of them. Most dudes don't get women. But when you do so many doors open. It's the coolest thing when a woman gives you her entire body and wants you to do whatever you desire. But you first must please them to get to that point.

Did they also tell you you were the biggest they'd ever had?

 

[The Duke]

Did they also tell you you were the biggest they'd ever had?

Nope, never heard that one.

 

[tesla8520]

You aren't the right guy. I've had lots of women tell me I got them to do things they have never done before. I believe most of them. Most dudes don't get women. But when you do so many doors open. It's the coolest thing when a woman gives you her entire body and wants you to do whatever you desire. But you first must please them to get to that point.

If there's one thing you could do, it's feel good helping someone.
Duke, how about we chat about these things and learn things I don't know?
I can picture myself sitting next to you, warming up our marshmallows in front of a fire, and talking about this.

 

[CornbreadFed]

If you think your "average woman" likes that stuff, you need to get out more. Yes, women like being dominated in the bedroom but that doesn't necessarily mean they all want to get throat fcked until they vomit and and painal.

I think porn has warped a lot of people's minds. There are plenty of good women out there who won't do any of that stuff.

Both of you guys are right, but OP overestimates the capabilities of your typical NPC woman and assumes your average girl is living an escort life with Sydney Sweeney treatment which is bonkers. Will women do insane stuff for the right guy? Plausible, but will they ever meet this guy? Probably not. Same logic applies for men. I’m sure a lot of men would do unspeakable things if Sydney Sweeney was in the same bedroom with them. However, what are the chances of that happening?..Nunca. Yall need to stop being chronologically online because yall are no different than the crazy dudes telling us the rapture is coming soon, AI bubble bursting or aliens. Could they be right? Yes, but it likely will not.

 

[Serenity]

sadistic man truly has everything it takes to attract women

Sure, this is true.

and keep them long-term

Not really. I've seen plenty assh0les and how their relationships go, they might last some variable number of years, but they're almost never life long.

Where is the middle?

This is really just the good old nice guy vs jerk problem. The middle is somewhere in between those two extremes. There is a reason women say they want some of those positive nice guy attributes, there is also a reason women are pulled towards some of the jerk attributes. Neither extreme has the complete answer, what we have to ask ourselves is exactly what is and what isn't desirable about those extremes? From that we can synthesize the best of both worlds and maximize our attraction while probably also growing to become better overall. Discounting either side entirely is a mistake, one that I've seen often.

So what makes the jerk attractive? Focusing on overall positive attributes, he's not a pushover, he defends what he believes in, he doesn't fear others, he has clear personal boundaries.

What does women appreciate in nice guys? He's not mean to others, he tries to help people, he's considerate and so on.

The extremes both stereotypically have flaws that are the opposite of each other's strengths. The jerk lacks the consideration for anyone but himself. The nice guy is the opposite, lacking a spine, giving too much of himself at the detriment of himself and others around him.

Are these two sides really mutually exclusive or is there some amalgamation that can happen here? Take the positive attribute of one and combine it with a positive attribute of the other, that's balance. Like not being a pushover while also not being mean, trying to help people while having clear boundaries about how far that will go, being considerate while also defending what you believe in and not fearing speaking honestly. In my opinion those are not unreasonably difficult goals, but they can be challenging to strive towards.

Like everyone else, women want the best of both worlds. Women have serious complaints about either extreme, but as you may have noted, one extreme is just more fvckable than the other. Neither extreme is sustainable though.

This is the balance I aim for and have let guide me for years now, it works great with people in general. I always try the kind approach first, opening the door for understanding and mutual respect, but some people don't play (or even understand) that game. I fvcking hate being a jerk, but I absolutely will if necessary.

As for relationship dynamics, I listen to my wife, I respect her opinions, but I certainly don't always agree and I say exactly what I think. Sometimes I let her have her way because she cares more about something than I feel I honestly do anyways, and sometimes out of fairness because she let me have my way on something else previously when she really didn't like it. Sometimes I force my way and she lets me have it probably for the same reasons (and she knows I give something up for her as well sometimes). This is just the reality of living with someone every day, nobody is going to be perfect (according to me) and bend to my ways always. If they bend some, I must also bend some. I couldn't do it if the gap is too big though. I **** her like an animal though, always! Can't imagine how sad it would be to not have that.

With that dynamic in mind it should be clearer why neither nice guy or jerk extreme works out.

If you're spineless she'll walk all over you and you'll be miserable, she will be miserable too because she'll feel all the responsibility is on her to make everything happen because her you're useless, it's a crushing pressure over time.

If you're a jerk it's no better, just different. You'll berate her for trivial bullsh!t, no matter what she does it's never good enough. She'll be weirdly hooked on the controlling, but for how long? It get's old sooner or later and she'll want to take back some agency in her own life, understandably.

The online noise is real, it wasn't better 10 years ago, I struggled with the same trying to learn. I'd consume anything online with a big dose of skepticism and mostly use it as inspiration for experimentation to build my own experiences in the real world. At points I did "digital detox" to block out the noise and compile my own thoughts about the world from everything I've observed, experienced, read about and heard about. Sorting out what's what in peace and quiet. I couldn't have done that with the daily scrolling, no fvcking way, not until I became trained enough to filter efficiently, which I learned exactly because I stepped away. It might be hard, but every time I've done something a bit hard I have grown from doing it.

Also, you can understand women reasonably well if you put your mind to it, but I do recommend you step away from that noise for a while to clear your own mind. If you don't already understand women it might be challenging/hard to do so, but you'll grow and learn something valuable that you can use for women, people and life as a human.

 

[tesla8520]

Sure, this is true.
Not really. I've seen plenty assh0les and how their relationships go, they might last some variable number of years, but they're almost never life long.

This reassures me... knowing someone sees the same things.
Even though we're from different cultures, ultimately, our feet share the same terrain.

It would be really interesting to know more about what you've observed, @Serenity.

In my observations, currently seven relationships with these types of men, and I know for a fact that women were attracted to them primarily for this characteristic.

If the saying "the morning is the best indicator of the day" is truly true, then why shouldn't they remain long-term? Or rather, as you say, even if the relationship ends, why shouldn't it last forever in their minds? (High Score Theory)

 

[tesla8520]

Synthesize the best of both worlds

This is the best part.

Women have serious complaints about either extreme, but as you may have noted, one extreme is just more fvckable than the other.

This is another golden nugget.

This is the part. Even if you've learned not to get angry or be too much of a submissive lapdog, so you're now balanced, the problem is that there will be times in the relationship when you'll be at both extremes.

The point is to change forever, to stay "more linear" and less "extreme" when there are situations where you have to respond like a good guy and when you have to be an idiot.

For this reason, I'd really like you to provide real-life examples of situations where you had to be an idiot and when you had to be a good guy, and I'd like you to compare them with your past self, when these two modes were too far to the extreme.

So give two balanced examples (good) and two extreme examples (bad).

Serenity, I saved this post.
It might be something to add to the Bible.