"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

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Rate this guys face plz

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Yes. Let's call a spade a spade here. You posted your own face and nobody here thinks you are good looking.
LOL no I didn’t .

funny thing about what you just said tho is this

if every member here added a face pic to their bio..

Everyone could tell in a heartbeat who is the most successful with women.

just based on the face pic.

Case closed.
 

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Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I was theorising and asking if women can recognise ‘big d1ck’ from afar , by the type of face a dude has. lol.

if there is such a thing as ‘big d1ck face’.

I reckon it’s a thing.
Not sure by his face CJ, but yes his vibe, his energy. The way he presents and carries himself, body language, tone.

I have heard it described here as 'BDE' (big d*ck energy).

I am going to say something crude but I've heard people say "the bigger the prick, the bigger the d*ick.":rofl:

Prick being subjective, some women deem a guy a prick when he's not chasing and catering to her.

JMO! Lol
 

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LOL no I didn’t .

funny thing about what you just said tho is this

if every member here added a face pic to their bio..

Everyone could tell in a heartbeat who is the most successful with women.

just based on the face pic.

Case closed.
That's illogical, but I'll ask you, is the way you communicate based on your unfortunate facial situation?
 

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That's illogical, but I'll ask you, is the way you communicate based on your unfortunate facial situation?
lol. Pls explain how what I said is illogical
Next thing, you will defining success with women as equalling time spent in a relationship.

and the guy with the most success being the guy who was with 1 woman in a 50 year marriage. Or some such nonsense.

we really are taking at cross purposes .
Forget about it.

ps feel free to post up a pic of your face. Let’s have a look at you.
 

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lol. Pls explain how what I said is illogical
Next thing, you will defining success with women as equalling time spent in a relationship.

and the guy with the most success being the guy who was with 1 woman in a 50 year marriage. Or some such nonsense.

we really are taking at cross purposes .
Forget about it.

ps feel free to post up a pic of your face. Let’s have a look at you.
I’m asking you if you have had trouble socially with sub tier looks.
 

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Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

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have you?
I’ve struggled from time to time, but I’ve also never had a consortium of people tell me that I have substandard facial features as you have here. So I’m asking you if you think it’s possible that it shaped your worldview.
 

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I’ve struggled from time to time, but I’ve also never had a consortium of people tell me that I have substandard facial features as you have here. So I’m asking you if you think it’s possible that it shaped your worldview.
no don’t think so.
 

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I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

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@Divorced w 3

and also , what’s your level of experience with women ..? how many women have you been with so far in your life?

Are are you a relationship type guy or a Don Juan Player type guy..?

So many questions
 

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no don’t think so.
Did the woman who gave you feedback comment on your face and physical appearance? You posted she said you needed to "tone yourself down" (your vibe/energy) which I agree with, even YOU agree with!

Also I don't recall where you ever posted a picture of yourself on the open forum, did I miss it?

How do folks know your face is sub-par, totally confused about that.

Based on what you've posted about how those IRL rate you, you said you're a 7.
 

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Did the woman who gave you feedback comment on your face and physical appearance? You posted she said you needed to "tone yourself down" (your vibe/energy) which I agree with, even YOU agree with!

Also I don't recall where you ever posted a picture of yourself on the open forum, did I miss it?

How do folks know your face is sub-par, totally confused about that.
that particular woman said it wasn’t my physical appearance .
But think about it - it’s not socially acceptable for women to tell men if that is the acfual reason.
Because of men’s Ego and man’s Anger.
that would be dangerous to be that honest.

her feedback was on my manners mainly.
It may have been I was too short simply.

Can read too much into a womans feedback tbh. But it is always an interesting exercise just to see what is said.

also importantly (and funny to me ) - all the replies to that feedback pedestalized the woman . lol. No ine asked me what she looked like IRL or her personality . lol :rofl:
 

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I think women generally are uncomfortable giving any type of negative feedback, I always am when asked and typically say "I'm sorry I just wasn't feeling it." "Didn't feel the spark/chemistry" as lame as that might sound. It's just an awkward and uncomfortable conversation no matter how you slice and dice.

But since she was being so forthright in answering, thought she might have said you weren't her physical type or something.

You didn't answer my question, did you ever post a Pic of yourself on the open forum?

Yes or no. :D
 

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Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

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I think women generally are uncomfortable giving any type of negative feedback, I always am when asked and typically say "I'm sorry I just wasn't feeling it." "Didn't feel the spark/chemistry" as lame as that might sound. It's just an awkward and uncomfortable conversation no matter how you slice and dice.
this usually means that the guy was vanilla / no sexual spark within the date

if there was a looks issue, you would not have went to the date to being with
 

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there was a looks issue, you would not have went to the date to being with
^Fair point. So from this can we assume she found him physically attractive? Since she agreed to go out with him? And she simply didn't feel a sexual spark/chemistry on the date?

Which happens. Often times there isn't even a logical reason, it just wasn't happening for her.

Except here she told him in so many words his vibe was too over-the-top... for HER. And to tone himself down.

Another woman might have felt differently.

Thats why it'a futile to even ask IMHO!
 

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All I am saying is that sexual desire (which frankly is the thing I put the highest value on initially, although I do not act on it initially) is a multifaceted thing where looks contribute, but many other factors contribute equally or greater than looks. Sexual desire and sexual intimacy are the glue that bonds couples together and it is comprised of more than sex as a physical act.

Without sexual desire what's the point? Without that its just a friend thing, for me anyway.
 

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^Fair point. So from this can we assume she found him physically attractive? Since she agreed to go out with him? And she simply didn't feel a sexual spark/chemistry on the date?

Which happens. Often times there isn't even a logical reason, it just wasn't happening for her.

Except here she told him in so many words his vibe was too over-the-top... for HER. And to tone himself down.

Another woman might have felt differently.

Thats why it'a futile to even ask IMHO!
yes. Exactly. The woman just doesn’t ‘feel it’.

but by logical extension of that - it’s then a fallacy of this ‘game’ talk to believe a guy can ‘control’ this somehow. He can install such feelings by charm or suaveness or his personality factors (or whatever)

women are mercurial .moody and hormonal.
They might not ‘feel it’ on a date one week.

But if that same dude had his date w her 1 week later or 2 weeks later …She may well ‘ feel it’ and proceed to sleep with him. LOL.

so it’s not a matter of ‘bad game’ or it being his fault on the date actually.

It’s more a matter of timing and getting lucky.

All this ‘game’ stuff only increases odds slightly .
It’s a small piece of the pie imo. For above reasons .

A dude may get laid and think it’s his great game..
But he was really just the right guy, at the right time is more the reality.

And no, never posted my pic on forum. Just an AI filtered selfie or two, to protect my privacy.

General rating feedback is 7 to 7.5 face for me.

And I like asking for post date feedback from women just to test/confirm my observations of their body language on the date. There will be negative BL signals early on usually I find.

And this is why women won’t tell a guy its his Looks that’s the dealbreaker ;

 
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All I am saying is that sexual desire (which frankly is the thing I put the highest value on initially, although I do not act on it initially) is a multifaceted thing where looks contribute, but many other factors contribute equally or greater than looks. Sexual desire and sexual intimacy are the glue that bonds couples together and it is comprised of more than sex as a physical act.

Without sexual desire what's the point? Without that its just a friend thing, for me anyway.
well your making some good points here.

but what other factors could come into it in the first few seconds of observing a man ..other than his Looks ?

-His body language (confidence )
-wether he is an alpha or beta type of male.
-an impression of his social status

So firstly there is a sexual spark or sexual desire response from the woman that’s purely Looks based re the man. his looks and how he is interacting and behaving (his perceived status) . from afar.

then in the interaction it’s ,
- confidence in speaking
- intelligence and sense of humour
- proof of his status
- him making her feel she’s particularly of interest to him, is ‘unique’
- trading signals of interest back and forth/flirting
- taking next steps to physical intimacy

that’s about it re the process of a man and woman getting together right?
 
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“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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