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30 year olds hooking up with women who are in 50’s and 60’s?

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I was hanging out with my girlfriend this weekend and a few of her female friends (50’s and early 60’s) who are having sex with guys in their late twenties and early thirties. What’s going on fellas? I have been out of the game for almost a decade but when did this become a thing? Some of these young guys are even trying to wife this old ladies up. Is it that women ages 18-40 are too much work these days? It’s very disturbing.
 

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I was hanging out with my girlfriend this weekend and a few of her female friends (50’s and early 60’s) who are having sex with guys in their late twenties and early thirties. What’s going on fellas? I have been out of the game for almost a decade but when did this become a thing? Some of these young guys are even trying to wife this old ladies up. Is it that women ages 18-40 are too much work these days? It’s very disturbing.
There is this stereotype that older women are easier, and typically if an older woman deals with a younger man it's strictly sex thus younger men go for them.

I'm 42 I find most 60-year-olds not attractive(yes there are exceptions but I'm talking the rule here); not sure how these young guys are getting it up for that lol
 

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@Mazer "I was hanging out with my girlfriend this weekend and a few of her female friends (50’s and early 60’s) who are having sex with guys in their late twenties and early thirties. What’s going on fellas? I have been out of the game for almost a decade but when did this become a thing?"

It's been "a thing" since times immemorial. Reference
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Lots of fellas in that age bracket need the cash + A free bed to sleep in, just as much as their female contemporaries, who are posing in lingerie and less on IG in exchange for donations, sometimes even going on "dates" with well-to-do older men
 

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The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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yeah, they are probably chad-lite/chad guys too, even these old women have crazy standards of what young guys they want to deal with.
 

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Is it that women ages 18-40 are too much work these days? It’s very disturbing.
Dudes bang whomever they can bang, the best they can bang.

Old ladies who are banging young dudes are banging young dudes who can't bang young ladies.

Nobody would bang old ladies if they could bang young ladies.

Just like banging single moms. You only do that if that's your only option.
 

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Dudes bang whomever they can bang, the best they can bang.

Old ladies who are banging young dudes are banging young dudes who can't bang young ladies.

Nobody would bang old ladies if they could bang young ladies.

Just like banging single moms. You only do that if that's your only option.

Whoa...you are about to bring @GoodMan32 to the thread with that statement! :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

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Women in their 40s and 50s (and probably older) doing online dating get a neverending stream of messages from young guys wanting to bang them. Thats why the concept of women hitting this imaginary wall and becoming social pariahs is foolish because I can assure you very few, if any, men of a similar age are getting inundated with messages from twenty something women.
 

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Dudes bang whomever they can bang, the best they can bang.

Old ladies who are banging young dudes are banging young dudes who can't bang young ladies.

Nobody would bang old ladies if they could bang young ladies.

Just like banging single moms. You only do that if that's your only option.
I dont totally disagree with this, but there actually are a lot of guys out there apparently with MILF/Cougar fetishes who are into older women so its not always losers who have no other options. Besides older women are relatively easy pickings for younger guys, and older doesnt always mean homely as there are plenty of bangable women out there who fall into those categories.
 

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Women in their 40s and 50s (and probably older) doing online dating get a neverending stream of messages from young guys wanting to bang them
Do we seriously believe that money isn't changing hands(From these gals to these fellas)in these hook-ups? Money, and other perks, such as free room and board?
 

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I think it is because these men are tired of young women being picky and denying access to the kitty, whereas for older women, the kitty is always open.
 

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Surprised that stuff like this is still news in 2026.
 

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Do we seriously believe that money isn't changing hands(From these gals to these fellas)in these hook-ups? Money, and other perks, such as free room and board?
Its possible but I know several women in this demographic who have gotten a lot of attention from younger men. They ignore them, for the most part, but they tell me their friends have partaken of younger men and I dont really have any reason to think they had any need to pay were them like one would a prostitute, but these are pretty solidly upper middle to upper class women with the means. So maybe a drink or meal or something? Perhaps, but the stories I hear is that the young guys show up ready to get down to business,not be wined and dined, and thats what the women want as well.
 

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I think it is because these men are tired of young women being picky and denying access to the kitty, whereas for older women, the kitty is always open.
This is a lot of it. A good looking younger guy is going to have a lot better luck with a 45 year recent divorcee who wants to relive her youth and get her freak on after years of a sexless marriage than he is with someone his own age. Neither party is looking for a LTR here, just some fun.
 

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Women in their 40s and 50s (and probably older) doing online dating get a neverending stream of messages from young guys wanting to bang them. Thats why the concept of women hitting this imaginary wall and becoming social pariahs is foolish because I can assure you very few, if any, men of a similar age are getting inundated with messages from twenty something women.
Reminds me of this
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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