We should really have a talk about this scam that "Men peak in their 40s", it's not helping the young fellas at all

[Velasco]

My CEO watches HOTD, does that make him average?

if ur 40 years old, haven’t reached a point where u have status and ur looks aren’t that great, then u can’t complain ab not getting results that above average guys ur age get, if ur attitude is “i like tv”

 

[CornbreadFed]

if ur 40 years old, haven’t reached a point where u have status and ur looks aren’t that great, then u can’t complain ab not getting results that above average guys ur age get, if ur attitude is “i like tv”

I’d argue the guys struggling the most with women right now aren’t watching mainstream shows like hotd which leads to them being socially disconnected incels. Most women watch game of thrones, so it’s easy to integrate that in to an approach/conversation with a woman rather than tricking or alcohol.

 

[Velasco]

Most women watch game of thrones, so it’s easy to integrate that in to an approach/conversation with a woman rather than tricking or alcohol

a 40 year old man (the op) with no status or looks will get nowhere with prime young girls no matter what show he watches

 

[CornbreadFed]

a 40 year old man (the op) with no status or looks will get nowhere with prime young girls no matter what show he watches

Not if he has money and status

 

[tksniper]

There is this insane idea that men peak in their 40s so they should hold it in their 20s and 30s while working to get as high as possible in their peak while disregarding thei current condition.

I'm sure it's unbelievable BS.

I'm 40 myself and even though I'm better off economically than my 20s and 30s, there is no chance in hell that a single factor among many could overtake all the others.

If the focus is just the ability to get women, it's even more obvious.
Yeah you are taken more seriously from women but it's the ones above late 20s and for reason beyong genuine attraction.

Young fresh attractive girls are not into older guys unless they passed the no longer fresh threeshold in their late 20s.
They dont want to rub them to you on the dance floor and see what happens, they want to "date" and get to know each other first with all the dancing around and entertainment.

Then the fact that if you need financial strenght and status to get a woman, it's very likely she wants a long term arrangement to secure her lifestyle...that's not about attraction but calculation and settling and for sure it's not anything peak related.

Your peak is when as many factors as possible of yourself are in the top wheter it's mere aesthetics, looks, energy, strenght, status, finance and so on.

Guys at 40, if you spend the whole day doing stuff you dont have the energy to pull an all nighter running clubs and flirting...and even if you get the hottie at bed at 5am, you're very unlikely to nail her hard, you probably just do a quickie to get a return on your investment then collapse at bed.

Many would rather not dress at all and watch a movie on their sleepers at 10pm then go to bed before midnight.

Keeping that six pack (if you have it) it's way more expensive than 10 years before.

If women get jaded with age and experience, we get detached and aloof but for real not as a trick.

The best suggestions we should give guys is to improve their condition in terms of aesthetics, lifestyle and positioning for the future as much as possible but WITHIN A CERTAIN WINDOW.

Better be in a decent shape and with a pleasant lifestyle at 28 then grinding hard and avoiding the fun in order to be in elite shape and rich at 38...you dont get the same that you get in the first case.

Even with a long term view where you want to get a great girl and settle down, having a family and kids...you still need to get the best resources in the optimal timeframe and that's girls below mid 20s before they ruin themselves and turn into agenda mode to secure a lifestyle.

A clean starting point where you grow together in the long terms creates way better bases.

You are looking at this from a woman’s perspective. Women peak in their 20’s because most of their value is sex. Men peak in their 40’s because most of their value is status and wealth.

When I was in my 20’s I undoubtedly had better skin and had thicker hair. But take away my parents and I’d be homeless.

Now that I’m my 40’s, I am completely independent, thriving in my profession, can take a woman out for a steak dinner, travel around the world, pretty much do whatever the fvck I want to do. And I’m still in really good shape.

I still get hit on my college chicks on a daily basis. And I have the means to get a good bottle of whiskey and a nice hotel for a one night stand. I have everything that she needs to get into the mood.

Women, on the other hand, literally peak in their younger years. It doesn’t matter if Oprah Winfrey has millions of dollars. Most guys don’t want to fvck her.

But an older in shape guy with money and status will have no shortage of young women.

I got rejected so many times in my 20’s by grown and sexy women when the woman was attracted to me but realized I didn’t have a car or had to take her car or had to sneak her into my room because my dad was still watching tv.