The dark side of attracting women

[Gamisch]

As I mentioned before I used to be a a "daygamer" by nature as its literally a part of my culture...as teenagers we used to have contests who got the most numbers that day...but as I got older I learned that getting p00sy while being broke is a dead-end route...so after becoming a father I felt the pressure to completely change my life..no more laziness or looking for shortcuts, only hard work . Learned a few skills, combined it with my hustle skills and charm and boom. We riding...


I've been saying for years that imo a man's focus must be on building his kingdom( yes by being delusional and thinking he IS the king ,the alpha) instead of spending time chasing . Lay traps, lure them in. Make women go after you , so you KNOW you won't waste time ,energy, self esteem, money ect.

-No chasing, no apps, no clubs and STILL plenty of game and p00sy being offered. Matter of fact; im getting the best results ever!

- ive always been athletic although life humbled me plenty of times; if I don't work.out I become man pregnant / fat.

- just grinding. Im working at very least 12 hours per day 7 days a week

- and yes ,I can still talk a woman out it of her panties. Matter of fact, I can effortlessly adjust depending to what a specific woman wants .

But heres the downside; now women fall head over heels in love with ya boi....its actually quite difficult to play with women's hearts like this...but on the other hand I try not to care...if a woman wanna leave I let her go..and geuss what? They refuse to go! And still its mentally tasking to deal with women who are in love, and their true emotions...

Any other DJ ever went from broke to something and saw their results 10x by doing so? Please share your story and perhaps advice!

 

[CornbreadFed]

Getting laid while broke is overrated af

 

[plumber]

an old question. is it more satisfying to mate or be great ? the path of being great makes this forum not needed. this forum is all about men not trying to be great also wants to mate. its called game baby.... no doubt being great solves both.... but chasing to mate, does not lead to being great.

 

[Velasco]

Lay traps, lure them in

u can do this while being broke tho

 

[Velasco]

etting laid while broke is overrated af

when i was very broke, even tho i get better looking girls now, it was very fun and i wouldn’t trade that experience for nothing

 

[Gamisch]

when i was very broke, even tho i get better looking girls now, it was very fun and i wouldn’t trade that experience for nothing

I get that.

But why would you remain broke just for the " fun experiences "? Also, the fun will disappear after a while if all you know is being broke.

Women and dealing with then will confront you with your broke-ness

 

[CornbreadFed]

when i was very broke, even tho i get better looking girls now, it was very fun and i wouldn’t trade that experience for nothing

You sure you don’t actually miss youth?

 

[Pumax]

But heres the downside

Maybe that is because your offering "new" things.
We should debate if that still valid if you enter a LTR with one of them

No chasing, no apps, no clubs and STILL plenty of game and p00sy being offered

So where are you actually meeting them?

 

[CornbreadFed]

But heres the downside; now women fall head over heels in love with ya boi....its actually quite difficult to play with women's hearts like this...but on the other hand I try not to care...if a woman wanna leave I let her go..and geuss what? They refuse to go! And still its mentally tasking to deal with women who are in love, and their true emotions...

This is the true red/black pill though. When you become that dude that women fight to the death over instead of the guy on the other side worrying about shvt tests, his frame, strategizing dates to maximize monetary & sexual return, the guy she isn't bugging at 1 am to come over, the guy putting 90% of the effort in to the relationship, the guy not being matched and messaged on OLD by other women, and etc.

 

[Velasco]

You sure you don’t actually miss youth?

nope. i enjoy that i get to fvck girls 15+ years younger than me now

 

[ivlvs_veridivs]

I've been saying for years that imo a man's focus must be on building his kingdom( yes by being delusional and thinking he IS the king ,the alpha) instead of spending time chasing . Lay traps, lure them in. Make women go after you , so you KNOW you won't waste time ,energy, self esteem, money ect.

I like this advice.

 

[Gamisch]

Maybe that is because your offering "new" things.
We should debate if that still valid if you enter a LTR with one of them


So where are you actually meeting them?

I meet women while going about my day. My geuss is that my vibe is what attracts them( making bank while developing , taking up big jobs which pay me good but make me work over- over time)

Ofcourse this is ill advice for any man looking to up his volume regarding women, but regardless of that it works wonders for ME.

Im fully aware that if I would've met the same woman via dating apps the dynamics would've been completely different. Imo a dating app ALWAYS favors the woman ,even if its just because she gets d1ck offers every 5 minutes what gives her all the leverage.

 

[Gamisch]

This is the true red/black pill though. When you become that dude that women fight to the death over instead of the guy on the other side worrying about shvt tests, his frame, strategizing dates to maximize monetary & sexual return, the guy she isn't bugging at 1 am to come over, the guy putting 90% of the effort in to the relationship, the guy not being matched and messaged on OLD by other women, and etc.

The funny thing is that now suddenly I meet dime pieces that dont drink, dont party are religious- oriented ect. But in the back of my mind I will always have the thought of women and female nature. Im willing to walk away at any given moment..

Matter if fact; because my "dream " is way way bigger than I might be able to accomplish I can immediately switch that mental button back to grinding modus. And like you say, previously I used to check the phone waiting for her message, double text because she's slipping away , spend money I desperately need for real sh1t on women and being in their proximity.

I went through a dryspell for 6 months but after that I ran into many ,many women offering themselves...it is what it is I geuss..

 

[ivlvs_veridivs]

Im fully aware that if I would've met the same woman via dating apps the dynamics would've been completely different. Imo a dating app ALWAYS favors the woman ,even if its just because she gets d1ck offers every 5 minutes what gives her all the leverage.

I've heard the bar for game at least where I live in dating apps is really ****ing low. Dudes will be extremely sexual, over the top, creepy, arrogant, talking about how much they earn and **** like that. Not even ****y and funny, just ****y and stupid. So, even if they get a lot of d1ck offers, most of them are really lame. To the point girls delete the apps.

 

[ivlvs_veridivs]

Matter if fact; because my "dream " is way way bigger than I might be able to accomplish I can immediately switch that mental button back to grinding modus. And like you say, previously I used to check the phone waiting for her message, double text because she's slipping away , spend money I desperately need for real sh1t on women and being in their proximity.

Oh, same thing happened to me just a month ago. Something changed that placed the focus on me. Now I will only answer to a girl if I feel like it or I want to have fun, or maybe she is being interesting. If she doesn't answer I couldn't care less. Like I notice, but not really care. Just, her loss. My life will still be interesting.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

But heres the downside; now women fall head over heels in love with ya boi....its actually quite difficult to play with women's hearts like this...but on the other hand I try not to care...if a woman wanna leave I let her go..and geuss what? They refuse to go! And still its mentally tasking to deal with women who are in love, and their true emotions...

Any other DJ ever went from broke to something and saw their results 10x by doing so? Please share your story and perhaps advice!

Again.

Yet again, you're making it about money.

We've had this conversation before.

If no women fuked with you while you were broke, and now that you got bread, you've become a chick-magnet....that's not a flex, son.

That is leading with your wallet, and a loser's mentality.

That's like not being able to bench 315.

Then you take steroids, and now you can bench 315...that's not a flex.

A flex is being able to bench 315, without the juice.

A flex is being able to say "I'm broke, but I can still get the hos".

You may have the big money, but the mentality is small change.

 

[tksniper]

I used to get laid all the time when I was broke. I was still very depressed. Balance is key.

 

[Gamisch]

Again.

Yet again, you're making it about money.

We've had this conversation before.

If no women fuked with you while you were broke, and now that you got bread, you've become a chick-magnet....that's not a flex, son.

That is leading with your wallet, and a loser's mentality.

That's like not being able to bench 315.

Then you take steroids, and now you can bench 315...that's not a flex.

A flex is being able to bench 315, without the juice.

A flex is being able to say "I'm broke, but I can still get the hos".

You may have the big money, but the mentality is small change.

Nope. Let me be clear about one thing: when I was broke I had plenty of play. But, The "play" always hit a wall. Struggle love just ain't it for ME.

And I vividly remember how I used to think about ways to make ( legal) money, big sums. It takes skills, experience and dedication. I'd even say that its killing for my previous way of dating as nowadays I pour most my hours in making money. I got an hb9 on the list but I simply dont have time to meet her as jobss keep pouring in. Oh well, I get a new b1tch sooner or later...

And the topic is that despite I dont chase I STILL get plenty of play.

So yes, I get your sentiment, but its not correct. I dont lead with my wallet to be clear. I'm scrooge with my hard earned money bro. But the topic is about how some women will notice a certain energy and get mesmerised by that alone. Matter of fact, women now rather spent money on ME. Nobody really knows how much I got, I keep that strictly to myself. On top of that 90% of the time I'm walking around in working clothes which is far from fancy

Qoute; a flex is being able to say "I'm broke, but I can still get the hos".

Thats just stupid and Ill explain why; I used to think like this. But how you gonna " proof " this to anyone( to who the forum, yourself, your homies who????). By staying broke. Thats just ridiculous for any man older than 20. In my previous life I banged over 150 women while having nothing. For me ,its time to move to greener pastures and see what life is like having some serious cash.

 

[corrector]

In my previous life I banged over 150 women while having nothing. For me ,its time to move to greener pastures and see what life is like having some serious cash.

This is all valuable information. It reminds me of something you said a while ago. You had mentioned that you paid for escorts about 8 times, if we divide this by 150 women this comes to a % of 5% or less, which is a healthy percentage between paid and unpaid.

Obviously you would have to have cash for the paid encounters. May I ask, why would you have paid for it if you can get it for free?
Were you in an area where everyone was married or unavailable or there was a strong logistical reason for paying for it? Did you want to contrast women you are paying for vs that are giving it for free? Since you paid for it in more than one occasion then that version of it was good?

 

[Gamisch]

This is all valuable information. It reminds me of something you said a while ago. You had mentioned that you paid for escorts about 8 times, if we divide this by 150 women this comes to a % of 5% or less, which is a healthy percentage between paid and unpaid.

Obviously you would have to have cash for the paid encounters. May I ask, why would you have paid for it if you can get it for free?
Were you in an area where everyone was married or unavailable or there was a strong logistical reason for paying for it? Did you want to contrast women you are paying for vs that are giving it for free? Since you paid for it in more than one occasion then that version of it was good?

First of all paid encounters to ME don't count as a notch.

Secondly, its quite simple; a very hot woman can sell herself and you as a man can buy that " service " at will. Especially when you're new to it this might sound appealing. You can bang an hb9 looking like Megan fox for under 100 euros. BUT, at the end of the day its not as satisfying as it seems. You cant spend that kinda money every 3 days, and ;you never know how its gonna be . Women that do don't stay in one place. All and all together its just bad for your spirit.

So despite having the money now, and the laws that allow this, I personally dont condone it anymore.