Have you ever been rejected by a girl despite her giving clear signals?

[OngBak]

Have you ever been rejected by a girl despite her giving clear, consistent signals to approach ?

 

[Plinco]

Have you ever been rejected by a girl despite her giving clear, consistent signals to approach ?

no

I wouldn't worry about it if she rejects you after giving you ioi. Maybe she wanted the attention. That's why it's important to be your own first mover. Act in your long term self-interest and don't worry too much about other people.

 

[intricate design]

Have you ever been rejected by a girl despite her giving clear, consistent signals to approach ?

how old are you? Like 5?

 

[Clockwerk50]

We already established in your previous thread that “clear signals” for you tends to mean overinterpreting neutral behavior. That was the conclusion of the whole discussion, and the point you consistently missed.

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[Travel memoir21]

Some girls just wants attention and clearly craves it. You get these types of approaches and signal giving a lot in bars and pubs were the girls crave your validation but not physicality. I wouldn't worry about it.

 

[OngBak]

We already established in your previous thread that “clear signals” for you tends to mean overinterpreting neutral behavior. That was the conclusion of the whole discussion, and the point you consistently missed.

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Thats not the point of my thread, its about your experience

 

[OngBak]

Some girls just wants attention and clearly craves it. You get these types of approaches and signal giving a lot in bars and pubs were the girls crave your validation but not physicality. I wouldn't worry about it.

Yes true, from my experience even if they want you physically, some of them will still reject you, its in the end again most of the time due to validation or they just know and understand the consequences and try to stay in control

 

[Clockwerk50]

Thats not the point of my thread, its about your experience

The point has always been that signals are misinterpreted because people read meaning into things that were never clearly stated; they’re not reliable evidence of interest, just assumptions. The more someone treats every gesture like a hidden message to solve, the more they distort what’s actually being communicated in real time through behaviour, tone, and escalation.

Therefore, the rule of thumb when approaching has always to assume attraction and interest, and let direct interaction confirm or deny it.

 

[nismo-4]

Signals are worthless unless action is behind them.

 

[OngBak]

The point has always been that signals are misinterpreted because people read meaning into things that were never clearly stated; they’re not reliable evidence of interest, just assumptions. The more someone treats every gesture like a hidden message to solve, the more they distort what’s actually being communicated in real time through behaviour, tone, and escalation.

Therefore, the rule of thumb when approaching has always to assume attraction and interest, and let direct interaction confirm or deny it.

Its not really misinterpreted, when you see how I formed my Question, actually you are doing right now what you are advising against for haha, but thats not the important part here right now.

Look at the question, Its about consistent signals to be approached, no ambiguity or confusion for that matter. If you f.e had the experience where you can reliably and confidently say she wants you, but you approached and got rejected, then you can share it with us. You can give us details about how you approached, what you talked about and explain how the vibe went overall. Thats what matters, your deeper experience of that situation

 

[Clockwerk50]

Its not really misinterpreted, when you see how I formed my Question, actually you are doing right now what you are advising against for haha, but thats not the important part here right now.

Look at the question, Its about consistent signals to be approached, no ambiguity or confusion for that matter. If you f.e had the experience where you can reliably and confidently say she wants you, but you approached and got rejected, then you can share it with us. You can give us details about how you approached, what you talked about and explain how the vibe went overall. Thats what matters, your deeper experience of that situation

If the signals were really as clear and reliable as you say, there wouldn’t be a difference between the approach and the rejection unless something went wrong during the interaction itself, like the person approaching acting awkward, unattractive, or turning the other person off.

So either the signals were misread, weren’t as clear as they seemed, or the interaction itself ruined the attraction.

 

[OngBak]

If the signals were really as clear and reliable as you say, there wouldn’t be a difference between the approach and the rejection unless something went wrong during the interaction itself, like the person approaching acting awkward, unattractive, or turning the other person off.

So either the signals were misread, weren’t as clear as they seemed, or the interaction itself ruined the attraction.

Yes Clockwerk, do you care about sharing your specific experience about it, lets hear your story..

 

[Clockwerk50]

Yes Clockwerk, do you care about sharing your specific experience about it, lets hear your story..

I don’t have any. Do you?

 

[OngBak]

I don’t have any. Do you?

I will share one later

 

[RoadKing_Rabbit]

Yes. Most recent ones are a real cutie (HB 6 by most standards. If not for her large forehead, I'd give her a 7. Very natural in good shape and looks great without any makeup.) that gave me strong IOIs, I was able to get a kiss, contact info and great flirts/escalation. I ask her out and she makes an excuse which was more of an objection and not rejection. "I'm not able to afford that." To which I replied, "I suppose it's ok for me to spot you THIS time, you'll just owe me one. heh" No reply after that and I enjoyed a nice brunch by myself. I I kept her as a contact, but never asked her out again. She made it a point to continue to flirt via my FB posts/stories for about 6 months after the fact.

Another one is someone who overtly flirted in front of her boyfriend who left the venue to "wait for her at home." I stopped actively flirting with her at said venue to see if she had any friends with her. No dice. She put her number in my phone when I had her search something we were talking about with it. (I've used this several times and 'pretend' not to notice.) I followed up soon afterwards and she played it off or legitimately didn't know who I was. Considering how eccentric I am, that's hard to believe so she must have been REALLY snockered. So I put her in the 'pass' category.

No matter if you get the IOIs or the number or even kiss a dame, sometimes it still doesn't go anywhere. In some cases I got almost NO IOIs and wind up banging. You just never know. That's why you always have to make a move if you're curious. If you're not, there's usually an instinctive reason and you shouldn't riddle yourself with guilt over not going for it. But if you ARE wondering what it'd be like and you don't do anything, then you should smack yourself at least once. lol Rejection is something we all have faced at all levels of attraction or interest. Even from wives/LTRs.

If you learn and grow from it it becomes more fun regardless and you will become more confident. Resilience and confidence are SKILLS that need to be trained. You can't just "BE confident" or "BE resilient." You gain confidence by taking action until you see success or improvement. You gain resilience by taking hits and rejections/pain on the chin and coming back for more until you don't notice and it becomes funny. Rejection can absolutely become funny. Had multiple of these from ladies snooping my social media after an OLD match with the likes of "Sorry, I just can't with guns, sorry." "You look like a rat." "I figured I shouldn't have because you're a bullet catcher" "You've got one chance to prove yourself to me and it'd better be good or all you get is crickets." I responded to that one (shouldn't have) with "That's not how this works, I don't have to do anything. Good luck with that attitude. You'll need it." She didn't unmatch or block me which was 'strange' LOL. She just wanted a 'brat tamer' to give her a good 'crack in the ash.'

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

Have you ever been rejected by a girl despite her giving clear, consistent signals to approach ?

Give an example of the signals, and an example of the rejection.

 

[OngBak]

Give an example of the signals, and an example of the rejection.

I'm not going to be specific. She was Sexually aroused 100% just based on my looks, high interest, eye contact, repetitive touching. The rejection was due to attainability and non-relateability. I told her about my MBA, that I graduated from a top 20 university worldwide abroad, but these things came up naturally, I didnt eagerly jump up to telling her about it or making me look impressive, only elaborated when she specifically asked, I also didnt tell her that I graduated from a top 20 university, but she knew it. And that I'm an international student, flirted a bit playfully and so on. Basically a case of a low self-esteem woman. She was attracted, her voice was soft and submissive the whole time, even during the rejection, but the rejection was cold, clear sign that I was perceived unattainable.

Based on my observation if I had it downplayed, or not even mentioned my degree she would have been down to sex the same day, because I know that my looks first put me into the lover category, but she lost confidence when I provided her my background. I know that with full confidence, the same day I hooked up with a celebrity singer

 

[RangerMIke]

Well. To answer the OP's question. I have never been rejected by a woman, who is really available, after giving off clear signs of attraction.

Now, woman that are NOT really available... sure. Women like to flirt, even if they are married or otherwise not really open. At some point during the interaction, she will give you a clue that she is really just flirting... she'll say something about a boyfriend or husband. She might be attracted to the man and even interested... but that isn't enough.. she has to also be available, or nothing is going to happen.

Now personally I don't really care if she isn't available... make her a friend. It doesn't hurt to have female friends.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

I'm not going to be specific. She was Sexually aroused 100% just based on my looks, high interest, eye contact, repetitive touching. The rejection was due to attainability and non-relateability. I told her about my MBA, that I graduated from a top 20 university worldwide abroad, but these things came up naturally, I didnt eagerly jump up to telling her about it or making me look impressive, only elaborated when she specifically asked, I also didnt tell her that I graduated from a top 20 university, but she knew it. And that I'm an international student, flirted a bit playfully and so on. Basically a case of a low self-esteem woman. She was attracted, her voice was soft and submissive the whole time, even during the rejection, but the rejection was cold, clear sign that I was perceived unattainable.

Based on my observation if I had it downplayed, or not even mentioned my degree she would have been down to sex the same day, because I know that my looks first put me into the lover category, but she lost confidence when I provided her my background. I know that with full confidence, the same day I hooked up with a celebrity singer

 

[sevbucmash]

Yes. Girl once dropped her bag right in front of me, bend over to get it, I asked what's her name and number, and it turns out her boyfriend was standing next to her and they left together. This world ain't fair, I tell you!