Crazy statistics: college educated women initiate 90%(!!!!) of divorces...

[Bokanovsky]

Well, you have to remember they initiate 90% of the divorces that happen, it's not that they will initiate a divorce in 90% of marriages. The current divorce rate is still under 50%. Another thing that might cut into the pessimism is that although the woman might initiate the divorce, it doesn't necessarily mean she causes it - the guy could be a cheater, batterer, drunk, or whatever. Still, however you slice it, those are some staggering numbers.

Sure, the divorce rate is under 50% (by a hair), but that number is misleading. It includes non-mainstream populations (i.e. religious muslims, orthodox jews, Amish, etc. who experience divorce at drastically lower rates), as well as old people from generations when divorce was less common.

 

[BeExcellent]

Sure, the divorce rate is under 50% (by a hair), but that number is misleading. It includes non-mainstream populations (i.e. religious muslims, orthodox jews, Amish, etc. who experience divorce at drastically lower rates), as well as old people from generations when divorce was less common.

And the above is exactly why there is such a thing as confirmation bias. My cousin has her PhD in statistics and teaches at the university level. She is the department chair in fact.

She always says statistics can be found to confirm most any bias. The divorce stat at 48% is inclusive of the whole population. Nitpicking that to say, well - its not accurate because it includes x group, y group, z group......um those groups make up the whole.

Y'all are going into the ridiculous rabbit hole here. More than 50% of marriages succeed guys. Set up your life to be in the winner half of the population, not the loser half.

This site can help you learn the necessary skillsets for that.

But as @BadBoy89 said, some men here want a Mommie. If you seek a mother you are not a grown ass man. Facts.

 

[Bokanovsky]

Y'all are going into the ridiculous rabbit hole here. More than 50% of marriages succeed guys. Set up your life to be in the winner half of the population, not the loser half.

Hearing this advice from you is rather incredible, considering that your own marriage was a failure. What do you call a loser advising others not to be losers?

 

[The Duke]

Whatever stat you guys want to hang your hat on, I don't need a number to not believe in marriage and realize it's a mistake for most men in the USA.

Ps. And after an entry level stats class in college it was evident you can make numbers say anything you want. They got 3 other formulas to get the percentage to lean left or right of the number you calculate first time. Biggest joke of a class I ever took.

 

[Doctor Europeo]

Whatever stat you guys want to hang your hat on, I don't need a number to not believe in marriage and realize it's a mistake for most men in the USA.

Sometimes I wish I lived in the USA. Not living there does have its small perks here and there.

 

[viking22]

Men can provide/protect but in this day and age it still offers little insurance against the woman waking up one day deciding she isn't happy/doesn't love him and then being able to divorce him, get half his money, alimony and child support to boot and in other words still be provided for by her ex husband while she dates and sleeps around.

Even if she doesn't divorce him often women simply let themselves go, don't bother to make themselves attractive anymore for their man, ration sex, and even expect the man to do a lot of the childrearing e.g. changing nappies, feeding the children, taking them to daycare, swimming classes, babysitting etc. and have little intention of returning to full time work instead having coffee/lunches with their girlfriends. They will complain how they need more help and will want nannies, au pairs, etc. And they will treat their husbands little better than slaves.

 

[Gamisch]

And the above is exactly why there is such a thing as confirmation bias. My cousin has her PhD in statistics and teaches at the university level. She is the department chair in fact.

She always says statistics can be found to confirm most any bias. The divorce stat at 48% is inclusive of the whole population. Nitpicking that to say, well - its not accurate because it includes x group, y group, z group......um those groups make up the whole.

Y'all are going into the ridiculous rabbit hole here. More than 50% of marriages succeed guys. Set up your life to be in the winner half of the population, not the loser half.

This site can help you learn the necessary skillsets for that.

But as @BadBoy89 said, some men here want a Mommie. If you seek a mother you are not a grown ass man. Facts.

Hmmm

I see what you're trying to say. So there are two dynamics at play? Yiu say half of all marriages ARE successful, and yet from those other half 90% of women initiate the divorce.

So a man has a 50/50 chance . However; that doesn't say anything about how those 50% actually get through their marriage. That's a completely different story. I've heard many stories about couples sleeping in different beds, not having sex for months or years, having boyfriends and girlfriends on the side.

It easy to say as a woman that the actual stats are "just " 50 ( still ridiculously high imo) when its ALSO the women who are most likely to file the divorce IF it happens. .

Doesn't make it sound more appealing to ME. But that's 100% a personal opinion.

 

[Divorced w 3]

People are throwing numbers around here like they’re fact. I haven’t seen one person cite a single statistical reference in this thread.

Let’s assume that half of marriage ends in divorce in this country. That number is painfully simple. You have to account for the concept known as dispersion. Dispersion says that while there is an average, numbers in that average are higher and lower but, when they’re added together and divided by two, yes you have the average. To put it another way, dispersion says that certain relationships, survive more or survive less. Why is that? That’s the real question. What’s the secret sauce and what’s the kryptonite. In other words, in certain circumstances, there’s a high likelihood that marriage survives, and in other circumstances, there’s a high likelihood it fails.

You can’t just go on average. Average is like the center of a tree and the observations that make up the average are the branches. Yet, you still have a tree. The branches venture off from the base of it.